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The Xonar Essence STX Q/A, tweaking, impressions thread

Discussion in 'Computer Audio' started by telix, Apr 28, 2009.
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  1. Bojamijams
    You're probably picking up EMI interference with the cables running through the middle of your computer, up to the front.. I'd recommend against using FP connections.. the jacks, the wiring, the molex connectors all scream cheapo.
     
  2. OlIv0rIolI
    You are probably right, though I realy like to use the front panel connector.

    Another thing is I noticed that the sound is different when you use windoes Vista vs. XP. I had duel boot setup so I had to install the drivers on both OS and I was able to find this out.

    The sound in XP has more soundstage and it feels like there I am inside a chamber and there is a lot of depth. The vista sound same as before with the onboard sound, only with more clarity. Anyone else has this?
     
  3. Bojamijams
    People have noted a difference between XP and Vista sound with the positive nod generally going in the Vista's direction.. it has a lot to do with Vista apparently automatically bypassing the kmixer whereas XP you need to use something for it (asio, etc.)
     
  4. OlIv0rIolI
    Can you explain Kmixer or asio? I am still a newb and I am unfamilar with all these terms thrown around here
     
  5. OlIv0rIolI
    I still haven't decided whether I like XP or Vista sound better. They are different. The XP sound is something very new to me while the Vista is more familiar, thus comfortable. I will need to listen for a while to decide
     
  6. leeperry
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bojamijams /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    it has a lot to do with Vista apparently automatically bypassing the kmixer whereas XP you need to use something for it (asio, etc.)



    Vista also resamples in DirectSound by design...WASAPI exclusive is great, though [​IMG]

    hearing difference between bit-perfect API's(ASIO/DirectKS/WASAPI) sounds awkward to me....but some ppl say that some players sound better than others ?!

    I guess you NEVER really know what the OS/audio drivers do in the back [​IMG]

    this site measured that the ASIO component in foobar is pretty flaky : Universal Soldier: ASUS Xonar D2 PM Sound Card Review (page 9) - X-bit labs

    I personally use DirectKS in foobar on XP SP3, so far so good! [​IMG]

    BTW, how is the games compatibility on this card? coz finding a working video playback solution was pretty damn hard(CoreAVC CUDA crashes XP instantly, and so does AC3Filter after a while [​IMG])....and I've read reports of BSOD's in games too...
     
  7. genclaymore
    If you meant STX, Then I haven had any BSOD in any of my games and game demos I tried, But then I am on a HDAV and not a STX .But it should be fine since the drivers are nearly the same minus some small diffence.

    Edit: only few needed me to disable GX but that was a no biggie for me any way.
     
  8. ROBSCIX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by genclaymore /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    If you meant STX, Then I haven had any BSOD in any of my games and game demos I tried, But then I am on a HDAV and not a STX .But it should be fine since the drivers are nearly the same minus some small diffence.

    Edit: only few needed me to disable GX but that was a no biggie for me any way.




    I have been using the STX probably longer then most and I have never seen a BSOD, ever.
     
  9. leeperry
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by genclaymore /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    If you meant STX, Then I haven had any BSOD in any of my games and game demos I tried, But then I am on a HDAV and not a STX .But it should be fine since the drivers are nearly the same minus some small diffence.

    Edit: only few needed me to disable GX but that was a no biggie for me any way.




    right now, I'm in HiFi mode...you mean I should check the "GX" button to run games?

    I use the Logic7 binaural downmix matrix for 5.1>stereo downmix, I guess GX is not using inverted phase for back speakers to create a pseudo-3D sound on headphones? David Griesinger is the god of mixing matrixes...far better than Dolby Headphone [​IMG]

    music works perfectly fine in foobar/KS and movies in KMP w/ HR+Reclock in 48Hz+ffdshow audio&video [​IMG]

    I'm not much of a gamer anyway, but BSOD's really make me sad....so I'd rather avoid that [​IMG]

    I've received three TO99 49720 BTW, still waiting for the DIP8 holders/dummy TO99 from my friend to experiment.
     
  10. G-Con
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    I thought about regular electrician tape tbh, but having second thoughts I might just use a bit of Thermattach T412 [​IMG]



    Does that tape conduct electricity? I can only find its thermal specifications; no reference to electrical conductivity.

    I just got my LME49720HA's from digikey. Tonight I'm going to try getting them in without using an adapter.
     
  11. leeperry
    nope, it doesn't conduct electricity...only heat.

    well be damn sure to wire it properly, the top pins are backward I think.

    and did you try the DIP8 47920 already? coz it'd be interesting to actually compare them [​IMG]

    as my friend put it : http://nsa07.casimages.com/img/2009/...1434666580.jpg
     
  12. genclaymore
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    right now, I'm in HiFi mode...you mean I should check the "GX" button to run games?

    I use the Logic7 binaural downmix matrix for 5.1>stereo downmix, I guess GX is not using inverted phase for back speakers to create a pseudo-3D sound on headphones? David Griesinger is the god of mixing matrixes...far better than Dolby Headphone [​IMG]

    music works perfectly fine in foobar/KS and movies in KMP w/ HR+Reclock in 48Hz+ffdshow audio&video [​IMG]

    I'm not much of a gamer anyway, but BSOD's really make me sad....so I'd rather avoid that [​IMG]

    I've received three TO99 49720 BTW, still waiting for the DIP8 holders/dummy TO99 from my friend to experiment.




    All GX mode does is enable EAX5/ H/W/Hardware openGL emulation/Surround sound(if game isnt using software mixer). Doesnt really matter if it off as DH works reguardless if turned on.

    Gx mode doesnt enable DH, thats Game mode, and that game mode uses some stupid DH2 setting which adds a echo,So I manaully set it to DH1 when I gaming.Which doesnt have that echo and trash.
     
  13. leeperry
    yeah, I really can't stand DH personally..way too "wet", too hollow. the Logic7 matrixes are just very dry and very 3D, I use them in both ffdshow audio for 5.1 movies and foobar for DVD-A [​IMG]

    you can set most games to stereo, so I don't realy understand what the EAX fuss is all about....my previous M-Audio Audiophile USB had no "game" mode, and all the games I tried(mostly FPS like Crysis etc...) played just fine.
     
  14. Symphoenix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    I use the Logic7 binaural downmix matrix for 5.1>stereo downmix, I guess GX is not using inverted phase for back speakers to create a pseudo-3D sound on headphones? David Griesinger is the god of mixing matrixes...far better than Dolby Headphone [​IMG]



    Is this a software solution or does it need some hardware stuff to work ?
     
  15. leeperry
    it's a copyrighted mixing matrix from his inventor : http://www.davidgriesinger.com/

    let's just say that if you look hard enough, it's all explained on his website [​IMG]
     
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