[pkcpga]

No offense but something like the Trifecta simply isn't going for the sound of something like the Fei Wan. It's not a question of the one having achieved something better than the other and therefore costing more. They are different tunings and have different values. Also, I find mids on Trifecta to be top-notch, although I don't listen to classical. To me, this is another one of those cases where you could go "all-rounder" and find it excels at nothing you could go more "specialist" within the genres you actually listen to and find that it slays.

Personal taste as stated, the Trifecta was not something I’ve liked as it does not accel at separation in the mid range, it compresses. And many instruments fall into this range. But for certain genres I can see it as excelling. I personally judge the word TOTL to mean it can handle most things thrown at it even if it’s a fun sounding TOTL. While Trifecta and XE6 are specialists not TOTLs for my own views as what I consider a TOTL.

 

[Rockwell75]

A couple thoughts relative to this "good for metal" discussion. Beyond my classic Metallica, Megadeth, Sepultura and Pantera records I don't listen to a lot of metal so I have no horse in that race however I get the sense that "good for metal" is almost as an ambiguous and meaningless phrase as "good for EDM" since it seems to me that the term "metal" comprises an equally diverse and broad array of styles and sub-genres within it. It's entirely possible that 1) two people looking for something that is "good for metal" are in fact talking about two fairly distinct types of metal (with possibly a massive disparity in quality of recordings) and 2) even if they do share common ground with the type of music it's possible that they have different priorities in the listening experience.

 

[rantng]

When one person says "Good for Metal" it could be something drastically different than another person.

For me, Good for Metal means smoother, maybe slightly rolled off highs, so those bright sounds found in Metal don't fatigue me.

Another person might WANT those bright Metal notes highlighted, with no fear of treble fatigue.

A couple thoughts relative to this "good for metal" discussion. Beyond my classic Metallica, Megadeth, Sepultura and Pantera records I don't listen to a lot of metal so I have no horse in that race however I get the sense that "good for metal" is almost as an ambiguous and meaningless phrase as "good for EDM" since it seems to me that the term "metal" comprises an equally diverse and broad array of styles and sub-genres within it. It's entirely possible that 1) two people looking for something that is "good for metal" are in fact talking about two fairly distinct types of metal (with possibly a massive disparity in quality of recordings) and 2) even if they do share common ground with the type of music it's possible that they have different priorities in the listening experience.

Basically "good for metal" could almost be used interchangeably with "good for ME"

 

[Rockwell75]

Basically "good for metal" could almost be used interchangeably with "good for ME"

I missed @PinkyPowers' comment, but yes, point well taken

 

[RTodd]

No offense but something like the Trifecta simply isn't going for the sound of something like the Fei Wan. It's not a question of the one having achieved something better than the other and therefore costing more. They are different tunings and have different values. Also, I find mids on Trifecta to be top-notch, although I don't listen to classical. To me, this is another one of those cases where you could go "all-rounder" and find it excels at nothing or you could go more "specialist" within the genres you actually listen to and find that it slays.

I keep everything stock, and the tips work for me that I use. I also use a P6Pro. My use case. If the stock cable is not good enough or it does not work with the player I use then I simply do not buy it. I did spend four hours with the FW, that said I liked FW a lot for the first two hours after that I switched to Prog rock and started to notice sibilance, once I started hearing it, it kept getting more of my focus until it was not tolerable. There was also a quality issue with the set in that the connector for the cable on the right side would fall out easily.

Trifecta also is a completely different approach to me (on that I suspect we agree) and for me very enjoyable after many hours I still like what I hear.

 

[PinkyPowers]

I missed @PinkyPowers' comment, but yes, point well taken

Just be glad we're on the same page, or by god....

 

[Scubadevils]

Scuba

I found you...there you hiding

Cheers!

A much neglected channel, I used to be quite active with uploading music!

 

[BORUSSIA]

You’ve got to give it time. What source are you using? I found the E Pro Horns, Final E, and Velvets to work. The E Pro Horns were the best for my personal anatomy and tastes I use the

I use the Shanling H7 (comparable to the M9) and the Ifi Go Bar.
I used several different tips ( Spinfit, Tri Clarion, etc). Some tips worsen the sound, especially smaller one.

 

[tfenton02]

Quick thoughts on Noble Onxy, which has become my all time favorite IEM, if you look at my signature of what I own, owned and tested that’s quite the statement.

First impressions were not good and I was wildly disappointed. But I took two steps. Swapped tips to JVC Spiral Dot ++ and downsized for deeper insertion and allowed 50 hrs of burn in.

After this, I was mesmerized.

- instrument separation remarkable
- clarity of detail (resolve) at god like levels
- bass that is fast, textured and slams hard
- no bass beed into mid range which makes for a clear detailed mid range where vocals seem to ride slightly on top
- spherical soundstage that is wide, tall and deep , 3D holographic. (Like open back head phone)
- treble that extends well but not sharp
- zero sharpness through the freq range
- great all rounder
- metal shell
- small shell that fits like a CIEM
- I can’t believe I’m saying this but at $3.2k it’s a bargain


Plays well with N30 SE but really magical with SPK3000. This tops my RN6 CIEM and XE6 CIEM and Ronin Prestige Plus as my go to IEM for mesmorizing listening experience.

Downside
- downgraded packaging vs traditional Noble products but no big deal to me
- Included tips are lame

 

[CharlyBrown]

Trifecta, XE6, Grand Maestro are phenomenal for metal!
I also find Raven great but wish for more mids.
I'm 95% of a metal head and would put in MM and Fourte Blanc. The last one has incredible fast bass for a DD and the soundstage of the MM with Prog Metal is out of the world good!

Have you tried the MM out of the PB5? Brings the Mentor to a whole new level imho.

 

[Aetherhole]

When one person says "Good for Metal" it could be something drastically different than another person.

For me, Good for Metal means smoother, maybe slightly rolled off highs, so those bright sounds found in Metal don't fatigue me.

Another person might WANT those bright Metal notes highlighted, with no fear of treble fatigue.

Totally agree and for me it’s kind of a “what kind of flavor am I in the mood for?”

Sometimes something laid back, like the ZMF Atrium, sound works. Then there’s times (like right now) where I kind of want all all the treble resolution from my metal.

 

[FooFighter]

Have you tried the MM out of the PB5? Brings the Mentor to a whole new level imho.

am a bit at a fence with PB5 lately.
Stage is nice but it‘s adding too much bass for my taste.
Something like MM is getting too overwhelming wooly down there.
My favorite is RU7 into Ferrum Oor desktop amp with MM nowadays
Guess mobile epidome for Mentor still is N30LE

 

[darveniza]

Currently traveling to visit some relatives and decided to bring along the Flipears Artha, had not spent a lot of time with it but it's been quite delightful. It covers all spectrums and really makes me smile. I did settled with both switches "on" as I found it fitting very well with my music discovery sessions.

In other news the Bass DC Elite is a great dongle, but I am experiencing that after +1hr listening experience static similar to what you get between volume steps. So thankfully I brought backup Moonriver2!!!!!

 

[emdeevee]

Is Black Sabbath metal? I think it's rather the precursor, which for convenience I'll call hard rock.

I'm testing the Rhapsodio Supreme v3 right now. This has a newish, single MST driver. From what I understand, it's a hybrid driver of a DD fused with an EST tweeter, with the obvious goal of providing coherence, which it does in spades.

So I'm listening to some hard rock and metal on this right now to stick with the theme. And I've gotta say, with all of its issues, sound isn't one of them. It's doing Black Sabbath, Kiss, Aerosmith, Metallica, Disturbed, Tool, Perfect Circle, Nine inch Nails, all of it brilliantly with a darker tuning, great detail, and a huge soundstage. It's great with these genres!

Now if it were only a) less expensive ($6400!), and b) lighter, it's the biggest and heaviest iem I've ever tried.

 

[Trance_Gott]

Have you tried the MM out of the PB5? Brings the Mentor to a whole new level imho.

Yes sure I use the stack DX320 MAX Ti + PB5
But mostly I hear MM direct on MAX it's outstanding in soundstage and details! With PB5 more warm, more meat but it has enough of all in my opinion directly on Ti.