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Oct 17, 2022 at 2:38 PM Post #38,269 of 88,428
how much is the retail price for rs8? thanks
Not yet confirmed but I'm sure it will be soon since retail versions are almost ready to ship.

Since we are on the topic of Supermoon in the house of Jeff by the Watercooler :wink: let me share something interesting. As we all know, CFA Supermoon was designed as CIEM, uni was just a limited quantity run in Asia and of course used for demos. I got my hands on uni Supermoon, been enjoying it, but eartips selection was a bit of a challenge since it can make or break the mid-treble, going from harsher and fatigue to more natural and tolerable. Narrow bore tips are definitely no-go. Wider bore tips are more welcome, Azla Sedna (short stem version) or JVC Spiral Dot, but still can get a bit too resolving.

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Then, I remember Ken saying that for a sound sig closer to custom, you need to try foamies. Right away I tried Symbio F, my go-to foam eartips. It gives you the sound similar to wider bore opening silicone eartips, so I was OK with it. Also, keep in mind, I'm talking about the sound relative to my ear anatomy and how I hear it, just sharing my experience :) Was listening to Supermoon last night, looked through the Campfire packaging, and realized that CFA also included their own foam marshmallow eartips. Decided to try it and what a difference!!! I mean, it was so noticeable that I decided to graph Azla Xelastec vs CFA Foamies. With foamies you do get a bit deeper insertion into the measurement coupler and deeper insertion into my ear as well. But still, take a look.

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Now, wondering, if anybody tried both, uni and then got custom, which set of eartips made it closer in sound to the custom?
The distance between the nozzle and my eardrums is definitely less compared to the universal since I got Artist Fit as well, and so maybe the Audiophile Fit is closer to foam tips since the stem length is shorter.
Great insights both. It makes sense that both wide bore and (relatively) shallower fit hit the intended sound profile for SM. If I look at the custom (audiophile fit), insert depth is modest (though likely deeper than a silicone tip), and the nozzle opening is very wide. That extra mid-treble zing/glare is what you'll get if you're not getting as close as possible to audiophile fit dimensions, I believe. CFA have also suggested artist fit delivers a brighter sound, and since we're dealing in fine margins between 'just right' and too intense, even the smallest difference matters. YMMV, especially if you enjoy more sizzle with your music!
 
Oct 17, 2022 at 3:14 PM Post #38,270 of 88,428
Yep. The Supermoon is extremely sensitive to tips, cable and DAP. It was definitely harsh to me when using N8ii.

After trying all combinations, here is were I ended up as my optimal listening combo.

tips: Azla SednaEarfit Max
cable: Effect Audio CLEO II
dap: M9
Thank you for the recommendations. Last Friday after purchasing my slightly used SM, I thought about a cable and decided to go all silver. I chose Cleo 2 and ordered one from Andrew. Still waiting for both, but I have my kitten to amuse me while waiting.
 
Oct 17, 2022 at 5:43 PM Post #38,271 of 88,428
Hey guys! I've published the full review of Softears Twilight. Posting about it here too since Twilight's been an active IEM here in our discussions over the past 2-3 months. The review contains detailed impressions as well as graphs and comparisons against Softears' own RSV, Sennheiser IE600 and Andromeda 2020. Enjoy the read and let me know if you have any questions for me or would like comparisons with any other IEMs I own or have reviewed in the past. Cheers!

 
Oct 17, 2022 at 5:53 PM Post #38,272 of 88,428
(Cross-post from the RS8 thread)

Hey guys, look what arrived today! Enjoy the first official RS8 unboxing on Head-Fi...


...first impressions to follow soon!​

Gorgeous vid 👏🏻
 
Oct 17, 2022 at 7:41 PM Post #38,273 of 88,428
Strong opinion warning!!

To this question, it does not matter the other companies. If Sony comes out with a new flagship, they have the strongest likelihood of coming out with something phenomenal.

Their iems remain legends for decades. I don't think they've ever made a flagship dud. I would blind buy new sony flagship tonight as long as it doesn't have ba bass. Or maybe still would.

By the way, aren't they do for a new flagship?

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Oct 17, 2022 at 8:29 PM Post #38,274 of 88,428
*Updated WISH LIST*

Iems

UM Multiverse Mentor (if true love, will go custom)
AK+EE Odyssey
CFA Trifecta

Inbound
Dita Perpetua
Soft Ears Turii Ti
CFA SuperMoon Custom
TGX EAR: Alpha, Serratus, and Tantalus (Ripples soon)
L&P P6Pro
 
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Oct 17, 2022 at 8:46 PM Post #38,276 of 88,428
Oct 17, 2022 at 8:52 PM Post #38,277 of 88,428
98 votes now...just 2 more......

https://forms.gle/Ju4mb29SfLt8xsbS9

Top 5

Traillii - 32
Jewel - 28
Xe6 - 25
Supermoon - 20

IER-Z1R - 17
Odyssey - 14
Indigo - 16
a/u12t - 13
EXT - 11
Odin - 11
Evo - 11
Mentor - 10
Phönix - 10
Kr5 - 10
Annihilator - 10

Mason FS - 7
Kublai Khan - 7
Elysian X - 7
Andromeda - 6
Legend X - 6
Turii Ti - 6
ie900 - 6
Ragnar - 5
Trifecta - 4
LCDi4 - 4
Pathfinder - 4
Red Halo - 4
KSE-1500 - 4
Fourte Noir - 3
u18t - 3

Elysium - 2
DC Ti - 2
ie600 - 2
Turii - 2
Xelento - 2
Erlkonig - 2
MESTii - 2
VE8 - 2
u/a18s - 3
Jolene - 2
Perpetua - 2
Szalayi - 2
e5000 - 2
EST50 - 2
Monarch II - 2
Atlas - 2
Wraith - 2
Fourte - 2
Trio - 2
Dorado 2020 - 2

a3000
Ace
Advar
Buds2Pro
Eden
Encore
Gaea
Humdolores
Isabellae
Mason3
Mezzo
Ne4
o400
Serratus
Sharona
Solaris
Storm
u6t
Volt
Zen Pro
V16
FD5
Aurum
V14
Phantom
Phantom LTD
Sultan
Fibae 7
FW10000
FA9
Diva
Twilight
N8
Nio
Ara
Vega 2020
Em5813
JVC FW1800
A8000
M4
RS10
FH9
MD4
Legend
Anole VX
Lyra II
Fibae Black
Fibae 6
Maestro Mini
Andro Gold
Twilight
 
Oct 17, 2022 at 8:54 PM Post #38,278 of 88,428
98 votes now...just 2 more......

https://forms.gle/Ju4mb29SfLt8xsbS9

Top 5

Traillii - 32
Jewel - 28
Xe6 - 25
Supermoon - 20

IER-Z1R - 17
Odyssey - 14
Indigo - 16
a/u12t - 13
EXT - 11
Odin - 11
Evo - 11
Mentor - 10
Phönix - 10
Kr5 - 10
Annihilator - 10

Mason FS - 7
Kublai Khan - 7
Elysian X - 7
Andromeda - 6
Legend X - 6
Turii Ti - 6
ie900 - 6
Ragnar - 5
Trifecta - 4
LCDi4 - 4
Pathfinder - 4
Red Halo - 4
KSE-1500 - 4
Fourte Noir - 3
u18t - 3

Elysium - 2
DC Ti - 2
ie600 - 2
Turii - 2
Xelento - 2
Erlkonig - 2
MESTii - 2
VE8 - 2
u/a18s - 3
Jolene - 2
Perpetua - 2
Szalayi - 2
e5000 - 2
EST50 - 2
Monarch II - 2
Atlas - 2
Wraith - 2
Fourte - 2
Trio - 2
Dorado 2020 - 2

a3000
Ace
Advar
Buds2Pro
Eden
Encore
Gaea
Humdolores
Isabellae
Mason3
Mezzo
Ne4
o400
Serratus
Sharona
Solaris
Storm
u6t
Volt
Zen Pro
V16
FD5
Aurum
V14
Phantom
Phantom LTD
Sultan
Fibae 7
FW10000
FA9
Diva
Twilight
N8
Nio
Ara
Vega 2020
Em5813
JVC FW1800
A8000
M4
RS10
FH9
MD4
Legend
Anole VX
Lyra II
Fibae Black
Fibae 6
Maestro Mini
Andro Gold
Twilight
No matter what happens, out of 100....The BIRD reigns SUPREME!! :heart_eyes:
 
Oct 17, 2022 at 8:56 PM Post #38,279 of 88,428
Oct 17, 2022 at 9:01 PM Post #38,280 of 88,428
I have an EA/Elysian Gaea on its way to me presently...can't wait to hear it again. Initial impressions from CanJam were very positive.
 

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