[twister6]

Crazy I just got the Tsuranagi and Yatono 8w ultimate coming and I heard that combo with my Damascus viking/rs8 at canjam nyc and I was floored I had just listened to my viking on Zahl hm1 and Weiss502 and it was amazing too but I swear the sound with the dap setup sounded better to my ears.

I was also looking forward to hear this combo at CanJam NYC, but never got to it. Just spent a few days with it before sending it back, which means you are probably getting it next to demo? All Brise Audio products have this Japanese DIY-ish audiophile charm. They don't put too much emphasis into sleek and sexy, these are heavier-duty build cables with extra layers of shielding for the maximum transparency, bigger soundstage and imaging, zero interference, just pure audio experience regardless of extra heft or bulky heat-shrink connectors. And Tsunaragi amp is also rather basic looking. USB-C charging port on the back, volume pot on the front, 3.5mm and 4.4mm inputs (selectable with a switch), and 2.5mm and 4.4mm outputs, and chassis work like a one big heatsink.

Tsunaragi amp is suited better for IEMs, though it can drive more demanding headphones, but it required me setting LPGT LO to max voltage and pushing this amp high in volume while driving R70x (99dB, 470ohms). With iems, there was plenty of headroom, and I was also using Yatono 8W Ultimate cable and their Yatono-Mini Ultimate 4.4mm to 4.4mm short line cable (a thick boy!!!). Briefly tested it with Mentor Multiverse and RN6, and the vertical dynamics expansion reached the level I was never able to achieve with any portable DAP, even N8ii with P+ voltage boost. Another thing, it adds the texture to the sound, even to BA bass of MM, without coloring it. But the thing that impressed me the most was micro/macro-dynamics expansion, making other sources sound kind of compressed in comparison.

But like I said, this is not a slick portable cable or amp or the whole setup. Transportable? From my point of view, yes! DYI-ish looking? Absolutely! Can you call it portable? Well, you guys/gals probably have seen pictures from Portafes audio shows in Japan with some hardcore audiophiles carrying stacks of gear. So, portability will be relative to your perspective. And I think it's great there is an opportunity to demo this combo from Andrew/Musicteck.

 

[552609]

I was also looking forward to hear this combo at CanJam NYC, but never got to it. Just spent a few days with it before sending it back, which means you are probably getting it next to demo? All Brise Audio products have this Japanese DIY-ish audiophile charm. They don't put too much emphasis into sleek and sexy, these are heavier-duty build cables with extra layers of shielding for the maximum transparency, bigger soundstage and imaging, zero interference, just pure audio experience regardless of extra heft or bulky heat-shrink connectors. And Tsunaragi amp is also rather basic looking. USB-C charging port on the back, volume pot on the front, 3.5mm and 4.4mm inputs (selectable with a switch), and 2.5mm and 4.4mm outputs, and chassis work like a one big heatsink.

Tsunaragi amp is suited better for IEMs, though it can drive more demanding headphones, but it required me setting LPGT LO to max voltage and pushing this amp high in volume while driving R70x (99dB, 470ohms). With iems, there was plenty of headroom, and I was also using Yatono 8W Ultimate cable and their Yatono-Mini Ultimate 4.4mm to 4.4mm short line cable (a thick boy!!!). Briefly tested it with Mentor Multiverse and RN6, and the vertical dynamics expansion reached the level I was never able to achieve with any portable DAP, even N8ii with P+ voltage boost. Another thing, it adds the texture to the sound, even to BA bass of MM, without coloring it. But the thing that impressed me the most was micro/macro-dynamics expansion, making other sources sound kind of compressed in comparison.

But like I said, this is not a slick portable cable or amp or the whole setup. Transportable? From my point of view, yes! DYI-ish looking? Absolutely! Can you call it portable? Well, you guys/gals probably have seen pictures from Portafes audio shows in Japan with some hardcore audiophiles carrying stacks of gear. So, portability will be relative to your perspective. And I think it's great there is an opportunity to demo this combo from Andrew/Musicteck.

Wow, that's super interesting.

 

[Auricon]

I was also looking forward to hear this combo at CanJam NYC, but never got to it. Just spent a few days with it before sending it back, which means you are probably getting it next to demo? All Brise Audio products have this Japanese DIY-ish audiophile charm. They don't put too much emphasis into sleek and sexy, these are heavier-duty build cables with extra layers of shielding for the maximum transparency, bigger soundstage and imaging, zero interference, just pure audio experience regardless of extra heft or bulky heat-shrink connectors. And Tsunaragi amp is also rather basic looking. USB-C charging port on the back, volume pot on the front, 3.5mm and 4.4mm inputs (selectable with a switch), and 2.5mm and 4.4mm outputs, and chassis work like a one big heatsink.

Tsunaragi amp is suited better for IEMs, though it can drive more demanding headphones, but it required me setting LPGT LO to max voltage and pushing this amp high in volume while driving R70x (99dB, 470ohms). With iems, there was plenty of headroom, and I was also using Yatono 8W Ultimate cable and their Yatono-Mini Ultimate 4.4mm to 4.4mm short line cable (a thick boy!!!). Briefly tested it with Mentor Multiverse and RN6, and the vertical dynamics expansion reached the level I was never able to achieve with any portable DAP, even N8ii with P+ voltage boost. Another thing, it adds the texture to the sound, even to BA bass of MM, without coloring it. But the thing that impressed me the most was micro/macro-dynamics expansion, making other sources sound kind of compressed in comparison.

But like I said, this is not a slick portable cable or amp or the whole setup. Transportable? From my point of view, yes! DYI-ish looking? Absolutely! Can you call it portable? Well, you guys/gals probably have seen pictures from Portafes audio shows in Japan with some hardcore audiophiles carrying stacks of gear. So, portability will be relative to your perspective. And I think it's great there is an opportunity to demo this combo from Andrew/Musicteck.

Tsuranagi is on my audition wish list but from your brief impression, it may move up the list more rapidly esp. paired up with Rn6.

 

[wazzupi]

I was also looking forward to hear this combo at CanJam NYC, but never got to it. Just spent a few days with it before sending it back, which means you are probably getting it next to demo? All Brise Audio products have this Japanese DIY-ish audiophile charm. They don't put too much emphasis into sleek and sexy, these are heavier-duty build cables with extra layers of shielding for the maximum transparency, bigger soundstage and imaging, zero interference, just pure audio experience regardless of extra heft or bulky heat-shrink connectors. And Tsunaragi amp is also rather basic looking. USB-C charging port on the back, volume pot on the front, 3.5mm and 4.4mm inputs (selectable with a switch), and 2.5mm and 4.4mm outputs, and chassis work like a one big heatsink.

Tsunaragi amp is suited better for IEMs, though it can drive more demanding headphones, but it required me setting LPGT LO to max voltage and pushing this amp high in volume while driving R70x (99dB, 470ohms). With iems, there was plenty of headroom, and I was also using Yatono 8W Ultimate cable and their Yatono-Mini Ultimate 4.4mm to 4.4mm short line cable (a thick boy!!!). Briefly tested it with Mentor Multiverse and RN6, and the vertical dynamics expansion reached the level I was never able to achieve with any portable DAP, even N8ii with P+ voltage boost. Another thing, it adds the texture to the sound, even to BA bass of MM, without coloring it. But the thing that impressed me the most was micro/macro-dynamics expansion, making other sources sound kind of compressed in comparison.

But like I said, this is not a slick portable cable or amp or the whole setup. Transportable? From my point of view, yes! DYI-ish looking? Absolutely! Can you call it portable? Well, you guys/gals probably have seen pictures from Portafes audio shows in Japan with some hardcore audiophiles carrying stacks of gear. So, portability will be relative to your perspective. And I think it's great there is an opportunity to demo this combo from Andrew/Musicteck.

I will be trying out this combo with my rs8 and final d8kproLE which is a surprisingly easy to drive hp imo.

Thank you for your impressions I actually purchased the cable and received the demo for Tsuranagi with interconnect but I am most likely going to buy it.

 

[Garney]

While Rn6's cable shares EA's Code 23 insulation coloration including many other brands where brown is the new black, Rn6 cable is pure silver with OCC copper shielding versus Code 23's all copper (solid core surrounded by 12 cores) and then there's the potential signature differences between the two. If it was a collab, I'd reckon we would have seen ConX connectors.

Looking forward to comparing Rn6's silver cable versus EA's Code 23 this weekend / early next week. 5 more days until shipping date

I’m spooked by Code 23’s ergonomics but
I’ve been curious to try it as I know you and many others have been impressed with it. Sure sounds like punches a ways above its price point in terms of performance. I only have one cable I find a bit awkward to use due to stiffness and weight and it’s the PWA No. 5 8-wire. Fine for stationary listening but that’s it. Code 23 looks even more unruly… I’ve found 4 and 6-wire cables of non-chonk gauge to be my sweet spot thus far.

Pumped to get the full details and see what the Rn6 silver cable is like once sets ship! Looking forward to comparisons between it and Code 23 too . Budget is now tapped out with Rn6 on order so another cable ain’t in the cards for a while unless some other gear goes on the chopping block.

 

[GiullianSN]

I’m spooked by Code 23’s ergonomics but
I’ve been curious to try it as I know you and many others have been impressed with it. Sure sounds like punches a ways above its price point in terms of performance. I only have one cable I find a bit awkward to use due to stiffness and weight and it’s the PWA No. 5 8-wire. Fine for stationary listening but that’s it. Code 23 looks even more unruly… I’ve found 4 and 6-wire cables of non-chonk gauge to be my sweet spot thus far.

Pumped to get the full details and see what the Rn6 silver cable is like once sets ship! Looking forward to comparisons between it and Code 23 too . Budget is now tapped out with Rn6 on order so another cable ain’t in the cards for a while unless some other gear goes on the chopping block.

I do have Code 23 as well and agree on the sound performance, it’s quite good. It’s worth a try, if available. But as you and all of us mentioned, ergonomics it’s a major point to consider if blind buying.

 

[twister6]

I will be trying out this combo with my rs8 and final d8kproLE which is a surprisingly easy to drive hp imo.

Thank you for your impressions I actually purchased the cable and received the demo for Tsuranagi with interconnect but I am most likely going to buy it.

How do you like it or are you still waiting to receive the amp? I had a very brief audition, and tbh, at first only focused on tonality. Then, I switched to their Yatono mini interconnect and tried Yatono 8W ultimate and that felt like a complete package together with Tsuranagi.

 

[drftr]

Dermatologically-speaking, I tend to experience issues with tips. I can get great seals, especially with SpinFit CP100s, so it's not a seal or fit issue. But consistent contact and pressure from tips causes me all kinds of gross skin irritation in as little as 4-5 hours of wear.

Have you considered that your ears may be too clean? Seriously, I had bad ear infections every 2 months on average and had many diving plans destroyed because of it. Then when it happened again in Egypt I saw a specialist doctor and he saw the problem within 3 seconds: I kept my ears too clean. Her recommended using a drop of some special olive oil in both ears every day and stop after a month. I found it really funny but had nothing to lose. And since 2013 haven't had a single ear infection because of it.

Now you don't have a problem with inner ear infections but by removing too much of your natural protection layer may be too vulnerable, just in a different way.

Still trying to figure that out. At the very least it would be cool to have a 1/4" IEM cable on hand just because it's so haptically satisfying to plug it in.

Owww... The thought of plugging one into a Marshall amp...

If you want to go super brawny with it, maybe a custom Code 23?



Carbon fiber to keep the weight down lol.

I don't think that works to be honest. I think they only do it for headphone cables, as once you select IEM the 6.35 option disappears.

I tried to folder split by category a while ago before I realized that would not work with the P6Pro and scrapped it. I ran into trouble with some artists such as Brian Eno and Ry Cooder who cross genres with their catalog.

Yeah, I gave up a mighty long time ago because of that and now only use Classical, Jazz, Popular, and World. And then categorize where the artist keeps up most of the time. Like Frank Zappa would be tagged with Popular, even though he has some classical and jazz albums. Gets me there.

drftr

 

[o0genesis0o]

Hi folks,

Is there any definite technical / electronic answer why IEM “scale”? For instance, let’s take two DAPs: the AP80 Pro X mini DAP with dual ESS something, and M6 Ultra with 4 AKM and 2 Ricoh Opamp. Given a sensitive IEM, say, the Andromeda 2020. It is still easily audible (at least to me) that the Andromeda sounds less 3D, flatter, and more congested with the AP80 Pro X, even though neither DAP requires more than 30/100 volume. Max output is definitely not a problem. Both have output impedance <1 ohm. What could be the cause?

(This question stems from @twister6 ‘s contraption above)

 

[wazzupi]

How do you like it or are you still waiting to receive the amp? I had a very brief audition, and tbh, at first only focused on tonality. Then, I switched to their Yatono mini interconnect and tried Yatono 8W ultimate and that felt like a complete package together with Tsuranagi.

I haven't received it eta is tomorrow for everything

 

[wazzupi]

I'll have penon impact, fir xe6 and noble Damascus viking and I'll A/b a basic interconnect and Yatono one I'm also going to try to deplete the battery and charge it via LPS and see if it changes the sound someone said it does so I gotta do it for science !!! @twister6

 

[joshUKUSA]

Hey everyone so I'm considering finally dipping my toes into the iem market after finding the perfect headphone for me (d8000 pro) and was looking for any good suggestions.

I don't want to go straight into flagship territory so I can get a sense of the sorta sound I like first, with headphones it took me a while to settle on the d8k as my preference and think it'll be the same with iems.

That being said I've got a couple currently in mind around the 500-600 dollar mark, anyone got any thoughts on the better contender out of the dunu sa6 or the symphonium meteor or any other good suggestions in that price bracket?

Cheers

 

[drftr]

Hi folks,

Is there any definite technical / electronic answer why IEM “scale”?

They don't.

What you are hearing in any setup you choose is that the chain is limiting the IEMs in what they really can do. Only if you had the perfect chain (which doesn't exist) you would be able to hear what the IEM really is capable of. And until then you listen to the limitations of the chain instead. As in "Always".

This links back to my earlier comments about whether it's reasonable to review IEMs in the very best chain setup possible to describe what the IEM is really capable of or that one should stay within the price category it plays for most people. And it also links back to my suggestion that great cables don't improve the sound; the just leave out less of the signal.

drftr

 

[wolfstar76]

I have a demo of the Code 23. Here's a pic of me wearing it:

That cable must have horrible microphonics for sure.

 

[wazzupi]

I have a demo of the Code 23. Here's a pic of me wearing it:

But how does it sound !!!