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Aug 9, 2022 at 2:17 PM Post #31,756 of 89,183
traillii is available for mid 2s if you sell the stock cable...it's insane.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 2:22 PM Post #31,757 of 89,183
Hello friends,

Had a short meetup with @Sajid Amit sir as he visited India for some business trip. We had a small discussion over coffee on Senn IE600(which he liked), Fearless Audio S8F(Which actually surprised him with the performance), and also the BQEYZ Topaz.

Some images(it was a beautiful sunset on my the way so I couldn't resist myself from clicking some images):-
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Today's meet was small we didn't have a lot of gear to enjoy either. But we got into a lot of discussions on the IE600.
I enjoyed watching @Sajid Amit's Youtube reviews before I even know headfi. However, I thought he is Indian and lived in India.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 2:23 PM Post #31,758 of 89,183
Single ended adapter. Cayin 4.4 to 3.5. It alters the midrange a little bit.
The mest is probably #12-13 without that setup.
Ar-m2 has good synergy with Sony ex8000st too!

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Aug 9, 2022 at 2:24 PM Post #31,759 of 89,183
What's your thoughts on Venom vs FT with Jewel Claud?
Just got Jewel and Venom. I read the Twister 6 review before buying Venom. Have you ever tried a drjuggles cable?
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 2:25 PM Post #31,760 of 89,183
I was able to briefly audition the V16 at London CanJam and I will say I was thoroughly impressed and that's with the stock cable. It's been a bit since I owned the U12t so I went over to the 64 Audio table to listen to the U12t again then back to the V16 and I did prefer the V16 in my brief time with it. I also liked the V16 over the Monarch mkii. To me the V16 is like a warmer, more engaging version of the Monarch mkii which sounded more flat and reference-y to my ears and didn't capture my attention like the V16 did. Wish I had brought my Phonix to compare but I don't think V16 was on the same level as Phonix let alone the Traillii which I did have with me at the show. Definitely impressive for an all BA at its price point and I'd like to spend more time with it.
yes i agree with you, I think for people who enjoys traillii or phoenix, will appreciate the V16, which I also prefer to the Monarch MkII. I personally recommends the V16 over the Monarch MkII if anyone wants to go for the Thieaudio endgame. I feel like the evolution of the Monarch MkII is the Jewel and the evolution of V16 is the Phoenix, based on SS and sound character.
But this is just my thoughts haha

Cheers :blush:
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Post #31,761 of 89,183
tmi
 
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Aug 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Post #31,762 of 89,183
Denon ah-d9200? B-stock are 750, waiting for a pair myself. Not heard them yet but bass seems to be a big tick in the box for them. M9 might also well be a better pairing then N8ii for upper mids / lower treble.

Focal although easy to drive probably aren't in the running due to lack of bass emphasis, plus the beryllium drivers are very noticeable.

Not sure how easy to drive ZMF are, another favourite.
I was also thinking Denons since they’re easily driven, closed back with great Subbass and detailed. I love mine so I’m biased
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 2:49 PM Post #31,763 of 89,183
RIP BB.

I always thought in Bobby Bland delivery I heard where Janis Joplin got her inspiration on how to deliver a vocal. He is an amazing singer, recording quality for his tracks can be lacking unfortunately.

I also had 8 track not portable though, one car had it when I was young. The albums we had were The Who’s Next, Styx Grand Illusion, the original Star Wars movie, and Eagles Hotel California. They are the ones I remember anyway.
That's why i like n3pro tube mode. It allows me to play mp3 or bad production because it hides recording imperfections imho.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 3:14 PM Post #31,765 of 89,183
It's interesting how the totals are similar to the "top 3" poll and in some ways very different. Happy to see lots of love for EXT, Zen Pro and Elysium.

Totals

IEMs


1) Oriolus Traillii x15
2) 64 audio a/u12t x12
3) EE Evo x11
4) Aroma Jewel x10
5) VE EXT x10
6) FiR XE6 x9
7) Sony IER-Z1R x9
8) Sennheiser IE900 x8
9) VE Phönix x8
10) Elysian Annihilator x6
11) EE Odin x6
12) UM MEST Indigo x6
13) Dunu Zen Pro x5
14) VE Elysium x5
15) 64 Fourte Noir x4
16) Elysian X x4
17) Oriolus Isabellae x4
18) Oriolus Szalayi x4
19) UM Mason x4
20) VE Erlkonig x4
21) 64 audio Fourte x3
21) 64 audio Tia Trio x3
23) CFA Dorado 2020 x3
24) Campfire Supermoon x3
25) EE Legend X x3
26) UM Red Halo/LE Jardin x3
27) Sennheiser IE600 x3
28) Aroma Ace x2
29) CFA Solaris x2
30) Noble Viking x2
31) QDC Anole VX x2
32) 64 a/u18s x2
33) MMR Thummim x2
34) Meze Advar x2
35) Noble Kublai Khan x2
36) Technics EAH-TZ700 x2
37) Thieaudio Monarch MKii x2
38) Yanyin Moonlight x2
39) JVC HA-FW10000
40) Dunu Luna
41) 64 a/u18t
42) Soranik Bastille Audiophile
43) EE Legend X
44) Noble Sultan
45) UM MEST MKii
46) Hidition Viento
47) UM MEST OG
48) CFA Andromeda S
49) Sony IER M9
50) Nostalgia Audio Camelot
51) Canalworks U91 PSTS
52) Ambient Acoustics MAD24
53) Tri Starlight
54) Penon Vortex
55) IMR Ozar
56) Final A4000
57) Tin Hifi P1 Max
58) Hifiman RE800
59) Hyla TE-5B
60) Jomo Trinity Brass
61) Earsonics Stark
62) EE Zeus
63) Noble K-10
64) Jomo Flamenco
65) Dita Perpetua
66) Inear Profile 8
67) IMR Dark Matter
68) Fir KR5
69) Softears Cerberus
70) Softears RSV
71) 64 Audio Nio
72) EE Legend X SE
73) DC Ti
74 Aroma Thunder
75) QDC Solo
76) Raptgo Hook
77)

Full Size

1. Hifiman Susvara x7
2. Abyss 1266 Phi TC x6
3. Focal Utopia x5
4. DCA Stealth x3
5. Sennheiser HD800 x3
6. Stax SR-X9000 x3
7. T+A Solitaire x3
8. ZMF Atrium x3
9. Audeze LCD-4 x2
10. HEDDphone x2
11. Verite C x2
12. Sennheiser HD800S
13. Sony MDR-Z1R
14. Meze Empryan
9. Verite Open
10. Real SR1A
12. Audeze LCD-R
15. HD 6XX
19. Grado GS3000
20. DCA Ether C Flow
21. Sony MDR Z1R
22. Audeze LCD 3
23. ZMF Auteur
24. Meze Elite x2
25. Stax SR Omega
26. Sennheiser HE60
27. Audio Technics ATH-W11
28. Audeze LCD X
29) TH900

Buds

(1) Yinman 2.0 600Ω Limited Edition
(2) Yincrow RW-2000
(3) tgxear tofino
(4) Moondrop Chaconne

It looks like Oriolus Traillii is still the "King of Kings," but the U12t's second place prompted me to buy it because I usually target the flagship IEM. Thank you for the summary; it helped me clarify the next target. :laughing:
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 3:54 PM Post #31,766 of 89,183
@Scuba Devils

I know this may be daunting, but I know a lot of us would love to see a Single DD shoot out from you, since you have some of the cream of the crop....

Advar/ Zen Pro/ ie900/ TZ700/ Ie600(when you get it)

Have you heard the grand duke yet?
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 3:58 PM Post #31,768 of 89,183
I enjoyed watching @Sajid Amit's Youtube reviews before I even know headfi. However, I thought he is Indian and lived in India.
he is from Bangladesh. A good friend occasionally visits India on business trips and plans some time for us audiophiles and shares some knowledge with us.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 4:13 PM Post #31,769 of 89,183
@Scuba Devils

I know this may be daunting, but I know a lot of us would love to see a Single DD shoot out from you, since you have some of the cream of the crop....

Advar/ Zen Pro/ ie900/ TZ700/ Ie600(when you get it)

Have you heard the grand duke yet?

I'll be reviewing Advar as part of the tour and plan to compare with my collection - not sure when my turn is for IE600, hopefully close enough to while I still have Advar! That said, I will definitely buy Advar, just not for another couple of weeks.

Yes I tried Grand Duke a few weeks ago, excellent DD but ultimately not for my collection - it didn't suit electronic music as much, better for vocals, acoustic etc... incredible timbre, you'd know it was produced by a brand that makes highly regarded buds - definitely has that same DNA.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 4:13 PM Post #31,770 of 89,183
@Scuba Devils

I know this may be daunting, but I know a lot of us would love to see a Single DD shoot out from you, since you have some of the cream of the crop....

Advar/ Zen Pro/ ie900/ TZ700/ Ie600(when you get it)

Have you heard the grand duke yet?
Would be a great comparison to read!
@Scuba Devils which music genres, in your opinion, work best with advar?
 
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