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Aug 8, 2022 at 11:32 PM Post #31,651 of 88,188
Cooler survey: What is your 12? Full size, IEMs and buds welcome...but you get only 12 total collectively.
I am going to give you a baker's dozen, otherwise Traillii falls off the top 12. In general, all of the headphones are better than all of the IEMs except for a small number of use cases and genre requiring black background.

My current top 6 headphones:
1. Hifiman Susvara
2. Abyss 1266 Phi TC
3. STAX SR-X9000
4. ZMF Atrium
5. Focal Utopia
6. ZMF Verite Closed

My current top 7 IEMs:
1. Unique Melody Red Halo FE
2. Aroma Jewel
3. Elysian Annihilator
4. Vision Ears EXT
5. Empire Ears Legend EVO
6. FIR Audio XE6
7. Oriolus Traillii
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 12:09 AM Post #31,652 of 88,188
Cooler survey: What is your 12? Full size, IEMs and buds welcome...but you get only 12 total collectively.
No particular order since some are still burning in! Also, not much love for buds on the Watercooler so here's my contribution!

Buds

(1) Yinman 2.0 600Ω Limited Edition
(2) Yincrow RW-2000
(3) tgx78 tofino

Iems

(4) Xe6
(5) Indigo
(6) Advar
(7) Tri Starlight
(8) Dorado 2020
(9) Isa
(10) Zen Pro
(11) Penon Vortex
(12) IMR Ozar

Traillii is incoming so does not make the list, yet!
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 12:36 AM Post #31,653 of 88,188
I am going to give you a baker's dozen, otherwise Traillii falls off the top 12. In general, all of the headphones are better than all of the IEMs except for a small number of use cases and genre requiring black background.

My current top 6 headphones:
1. Hifiman Susvara
2. Abyss 1266 Phi TC
3. STAX SR-X9000
4. ZMF Atrium
5. Focal Utopia
6. ZMF Verite Closed

My current top 7 IEMs:
1. Unique Melody Red Halo FE
2. Aroma Jewel
3. Elysian Annihilator
4. Vision Ears EXT
5. Empire Ears Legend EVO
6. FIR Audio XE6
7. Oriolus Traillii
You just reversed back the order of Susvara and 1266?
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 12:38 AM Post #31,654 of 88,188
You just reversed back the order of Susvara and 1266?
Yes. After detailed critical listening, I decided I prefer the mids of the Susvara over the bass and stage of the 1266TC. This is based on my own system. If I had a WA33, I am sure I would pick the 1266TC.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 12:38 AM Post #31,655 of 88,188
1) Supermoon
2) EXT
3) Annihilator
4) Traillii
5) HA-FW10000
6) Zen Pro
7) XE6
8) Phonix
9) Dorado 2020
10) IER Z1R
11) Elysium
12) Solaris SE

Totals:

1) 64 audio a/u12t x7
2) Aroma Jewel x7
3) Oriolus Traillii x7
4) Elysian Annihilator x6
5) FiR XE6 x6
6) EE Evo x5
7) VE Phönix x5
8) Sony IER-Z1R x4
9) UM Mason x4
10) UM MEST Indigo x4
11) VE EXT x4
12) 64 Fourte Noir x3
13) CFA Dorado 2020 x3
14) Campfire Supermoon x3
15) Dunu Zen Pro x3
16) Elysian X x3
17) Oriolus Isabellae x3
18) UM Red Halo/LE Jardin x3
19) VE Elysium x3
20) VE Erlkonig x3
21) Aroma Ace x2
22) CFA Solaris x2
23) EE Odin x2
24) Noble Viking x2
25) QDC Anole VX x2
26) 64 audio Tia Trio
27) EE Legend X
28) 64 audio Fourte
29) 64 a/u18t
30) 64 a/u18s
31) MMR Thummim
32) JVC HA-FW10000
33) Technics EAH-TZ700
34) Dunu Luna
35) Noble Kublai Khan
36) Sennheiser IE900
37) Soranik Bastille Audiophile
38) EE Legend X
39) Noble Sultan
40) Monarch MKii
41) UM MEST MKii
42) Hidition Viento
43) UM MEST OG
44) CFA Andromeda S
45) Sony IER M9
46) Nostalgia Audio Camelot
47) Canalworks U91 PSTS
48) Ambient Acoustics MAD24
49) Meze Advar
50) Tri Starlight
51) Penon Vortex
52) IMR Ozar

1. Hifiman Susvara x4
2. Abyss 1266 Phi TC x3
3. Focal Utopia x3
4. Stax SR-X9000 x3
5. ZMF Atrium x2
6. Sennheiser HD800S
7. Sony MDR-Z1R
8. Meze Empryan
9. Verite Open
10. Real SR1A
11. Audeze LCD-4
12. Audeze LCD-R
13. Sennheiser HD800
14. DCA Stealth
15. HD 6XX
16. Verite C

(1) Yinman 2.0 600Ω Limited Edition
(2) Yincrow RW-2000
(3) tgxear tofino
 
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Aug 9, 2022 at 2:42 AM Post #31,658 of 88,188
Out of curiosity anyone demo the T + A Solitaire T here
Eagerly awaiting arrival at my local importer to test out. Will have it on long term loan. Think they said they’ll only ship late September. Really exciting product and was very happy to see that it can double as both fully passive wired and active wireless (the latter with and without ANC). Also really like the digital wired input option via USB-C
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 2:46 AM Post #31,659 of 88,188
Top 12 from current inventory, any deviation from stock cable noted in brackets... ranking based on how much time a set is getting at present.
  1. Aroma Audio Jewel (Penon OSG)
  2. Oriolus Traillii (LL Martini)
  3. Technics TZ700 (Onso 4.4mm)
  4. Yanyin Moonlight
  5. Final A4000
  6. Sony IER-Z1R
  7. Oriolus Szalayi (Satin Audio Athena) out on loan, would be higher otherwise
  8. DUNU ZEN PRO - closed classifieds listing, again :)
  9. Sennheiser IE900
  10. Moondrop Chaconne
  11. Tin Hifi P1 Max
  12. Hifiman RE800
While I'm at it, on the radar:
  • LPGT OG or Ti
  • L&P P6Pro
  • Sony NW-WM1Z
  • qdc Tiger
  • Softears Turii
  • Dita Perpetua
  • Kublai Khan
  • Plussound, PWA, Eletech, Penon, new Moondrop cable etc... I've a cable thing starting!
  • Some more buds
 
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Aug 9, 2022 at 2:52 AM Post #31,660 of 88,188
Crinacle says thieaudio v16 is just as good as traillii for a fifth of the price. 🤔

Edit: Crin's opinion not mine. Not saying i agree or disagree , don't shoot the messenger.

 

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Aug 9, 2022 at 2:58 AM Post #31,661 of 88,188
Crinacle says thieaudio v16 is just as good as traillii for a fifth of the price. 🤔


Crinacle thinks that the Monarch mkii is the best IEM in the world. It isn't in the top 20 of just my own collection. Don't use Crinacle as a substitute for your own ears.
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 3:02 AM Post #31,662 of 88,188
Cooler survey: What is your 12? Full size, IEMs and buds welcome...but you get only 12 total collectively.

Full size (hard to order after first 3):
1. T+A Solitaire P (with ortatory EQ)
2. Abyss 1266 TC / OG
3. Hifiman Susvara
4. Audeze LCD-4z
5. DCA Stealth
6. Focal Utopia
7. ZMF Verite Closed
8. Audeze LCD-X
9. Quad Era-1
10. Focal Radiance

IEMs (hard to order after Traillii :smile:):
1. Oriolus Traillii
2. Empire Ears Odin
3. Vision Ears Phönix
4. Elysian Accoustic Labs X
5. 64Audio Fourte
6. Sony Z1R
7. UM Mason FS
8. UM Mest MKII
9. Jomo Audio Flamenco
10. QDC Anole VX
 
Aug 9, 2022 at 3:06 AM Post #31,663 of 88,188
I can't really set a real ranking list, but more some selected items that I really love to use in certain conditions.

#1 Headphone DCA Stealth is maybe my absolute sound quality reference and it's luckily a closed headphone so can be used at a realistic volume level even when not alone (office, trains)

#2 Vision Ears EXT as "THE" very solid every day Hybrid IEM (office, Trains, Planes, Street) though I still prefer a bit more the IER-Z1R Sound Quality but it is not enough comfortable to be worth to mention it in the list..

#3 HEDDphone One .. just for the amazing kicks it can offer (unfortunately open back) .. probably not so good for the ears, but so addictive at a realistic volume level (needs 2x6W headphone amp or even a powerful speaker amp).

#4 Sennheiser IE600/IE900 both are very good DD IEM and by far the most comfortable IEM that can be used in a bed for the night. (the Xelento is falling short Behind) I am missing an hybrid IEM in that size (almost flat in the ear lob)

#5 Grado GS3000e ... So light, airy SQ and offers a real wide open stage, that I enjoy to use this headphone while being able to stay in contact with people around me (home/family)..but, definitely, I am really missing low/ultra low frequencies (or it's clipping very hardly with PEQ) in maybe 5 to 10% of my music tracks.


I still own a half dozen of other Headphones or IEM (even Electrostatics IEM & Headphone) ... but none worth to mention in this "Selected" list, as I almost never use them any-more.

In short, I will even shorten this list in the future when I won't miss some features I have in this selected 5 Headphone/IEM,
So, for a while, I am looking hardly for :
=> a Grado GS3000e form factor with low and ultra low frequencies (under 100/150hz like a HEDDphone One) it can be a future larger DCA Stealth with open back ?
=> an Hybrid IER-Z1R with a IE600/IE900 size & form factor ... but, it seems nothing on the market can do this (they all are far too thick in the ears including the little VE EXT).
 
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Aug 9, 2022 at 3:13 AM Post #31,664 of 88,188
Crinacle thinks that the Monarch mkii is the best IEM in the world. It isn't in the top 20 of just my own collection. Don't use Crinacle as a substitute for your own ears.
I was thinking a long time ago to get the Monarch Mk II
To be honest only a select few like it
And all the rest sells it due to the size / fit issues
Probably of the lovers, most like it just because Crin puts it #1 on the list
Finally we all know it sounds better as Traillii and Jewel
But Crin is married to Linsoul so ... 🤷
 
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Aug 9, 2022 at 3:32 AM Post #31,665 of 88,188
I’m surprised but not surprised by the lack of love to two hp that I swear are the number 1 regret I sold it and I’m rebuying it again, doh…. Hd800S and th900. they Are not technically perfect but for a host of reasons, these are must haves. But hey not offended in the least. Love to see lists of stuff
 

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