[borrego]

Most of the T1's weight is on the long cable. Just get a large laundry clip to hold the cable to desk/chair arm rest when listening and you will be fine with the weight.

 

[Packdemon]

  Most of the T1's weight is on the long cable. Just get a large laundry clip to hold the cable to desk/chair arm rest when listening and you will be fine with the weight.

That definitely would work, but I'd say that the telsa drivers themselves are a fair bit heavier than DT drivers are (maybe two or three times as heavy).

 

[KopaZ]

possibly due to magnets. while HD800 used lighter diaphragm, Beyer's T1Stronk used stronker magnet to reach the 1 Tesla of density.

 

[derbigpr]

  possibly due to magnets. while HD800 used lighter diaphragm, Beyer's T1Stronk used stronker magnet to reach the 1 Tesla of density.

 
It's not just the magnet, the entire body of the driver is machined aluminium, unlike plastic used in most drivers.

 

[Solarium]

  Most of the T1's weight is on the long cable. Just get a large laundry clip to hold the cable to desk/chair arm rest when listening and you will be fine with the weight.

Been doing that actually, wrapping the cable once around my Sennheiser headphone stand so there's very little slack from the wire to the headphone. I'm enjoying the sound so much that I can overlook the weight. Going back to the HD700 makes it sound muffled and listless almost. I'm actually worried that the HD800 won't give me as much pleasure listening to music as the T1 does, especially EDM.

 

[Me x3]

  I'm actually worried that the HD800 won't give me as much pleasure listening to music as the T1 does, especially EDM.

Wouldn't surprise me!
 
The HD800 while incredibly open and resolving, is clearly coldish and steely next to the T1.

 

[vlach]

Wouldn't surprise me!

The HD800 while incredibly open and resolving, is clearly coldish and steely next to the T1.

My experience is exactly the opposite. I find the midrange warmer on the HD800 but i suppose this could be related to upstream gear. I use a tube R2R DAC and a very powerful vintage receiver with high output impedance.
The T1 is the one with more clarity & transparency IMO.

 

[headwhacker]

As much as I enjoy T1 the past couple of years, I have to say HD800 is the better phone. IME, the T1 and HD800 share similar sound signature. However, HD800 is at least a notch higher technically. The sound is bigger, detail and imaging is better and clearer. As far as sibilance or anything annoying about T1 it's a hair below on HD800. Everything is well controlled on HD800. 
 
The only thing I can find that T1 better is with a bass heavy tracks. T1 clearly has a bigger bass. HD800 however, renders bass with much clarity and detail. 

 

[JamieMcC]

  As much as I enjoy T1 the past couple of years, I have to say HD800 is the better phone. IME, the T1 and HD800 share similar sound signature. However, HD800 is at least a notch higher technically. The sound is bigger, detail and imaging is better and clearer. As far as sibilance or anything annoying about T1 it's a hair below on HD800. Everything is well controlled on HD800. 
 
The only thing I can find that T1 better is with a bass heavy tracks. T1 clearly has a bigger bass. HD800 however, renders bass with much clarity and detail. 

 
T1 imo bests the hd800 with its pinpoint accuracy within the soundstage. Both are excellent phones and getting better value all the time.

 

[Brooko]

  T1 imo bests the hd800 with its pinpoint accuracy within the soundstage. Both are excellent phones and getting better value all the time.

 
Agree with this also (in my side-by-side tests).  HD800 had larger sound stage (no question), but I also thought T1 imaged better.

 

[maheeinfy]

Any comparisons between T1 and HE1000?

 

[borrego]

The HD800 drivers are more resolving and have less distortion compares to the T1 drivers. However, the sound image the HD800 projects out just has weird proportion. It is actually not the fault of HD800. It is because 99.9999% of music recordings are not mastered/mixed with the type of ring drivers HD800 is using. The HD800 design is simply too innovative for most of the available recordings.
 
The T1, on the hand, has the "traditional" dynamic drivers design found on most other headphones/speakers which most music recordings are made for. Thus the T1 can produce more "accurate" image.

 

[Packdemon]

The HD800 drivers are more resolving and have less distortion compares to the T1 drivers. However, the sound image the HD800 projects out just has weird proportion. It is actually not the fault of HD800. It is because 99.9999% of music recordings are not mastered/mixed with the type of ring drivers HD800 is using. The HD800 design is simply too innovative for most of the available recordings.

The T1, on the hand, has the "traditional" dynamic drivers design found on most other headphones/speakers which most music recordings are made for. Thus the T1 can produce more "accurate" image.

Maybe the T1's drivers are better angled for your ears, they certainly are for mine at least.

 

[KopaZ]

so for past week or so, I tried searching entire college library source just to find about manufacturing/examples used for highend headphones in general.
couldn't find any,
I do have a spare T1 (broken because I made a hole on the diaphragm), maybe college can get something out of those.

 

[gab840]

What O2 amp gain settings you all recommend for T1
Standard Gain(2.5x/6.5x) or Normal Gain (1x/3.5x) ??