[NickiRasgo]

This (HiBy R3) or Sony NW-A55? I'm leaning towards warm but is HiBy R3 better?

 

[paruchuribros]

Tonight I experimented something new and I loved the result R3-->Mojo--> Audeze Deckard--> LCD 2 F. It is mind blowing. Everything sounded so clean. It made me instantly happier and brought smile on my face.

 

[457139]

Hi. I bought Hiby r3 and was disappointed its sound. It haves too much bass and narrow stage. In my opinion even Shanling m1 have more wide stage. Now I am going to sell R3 and buy Hidizs Ap80. What do you think? Is it a good idea or mistake?

Were you listening from the balanced output?

 

[457139]

For those wondering, the DAC chip in the R3 is really alot better than the one in the M0. Also, to get the best out of the R3 you need to be listening through the balanced output.

 

[tarunalpha]

For those wondering, the DAC chip in the R3 is really alot better than the one in the M0. Also, to get the best out of the R3 you need to be listening through the balanced output.

so do your think R3 as an sonic upgrade over smartphone+usb dacs?

 

[kovs1986]

Were you listening from the balanced output?

I was listening only from 3.5 output. And I was disappointed. But I haven't got balanced headphones. So why does my shanling m1 sound with wider stage and have more air in sound?

 

[Ken G]

so do your think R3 as an sonic upgrade over smartphone+usb dacs?

Absolutely ahead of most smartphones, but the R3 is miles behind with the interface compared to any modern smartphone (iOS or Android). The user experience is very clunky. I mostly just use the R3 as a DNLA endpoint attached to the Mojo - although the balanced out sounds very good with IEMs or sensitive full on headphones. The ESS Sabre 9028 DAC that the R3 uses is very highly regarded and used in more than a few high end DAPs and stand alone DACs.

 

[paruchuribros]

Were you listening from the balanced output?

Yes

 

[phucvm8x]

2.5 balanced output much more different with 3.5 output?
Is it ok if i use a 3.5 to 2.5 with my SE headphones

 

[tarunalpha]

2.5 balanced output much more different with 3.5 output?
Is it ok if i use a 3.5 to 2.5 with my SE headphones

as far as I know you need to have phones or iems with balanced cable as well to fully utilize the 2.5mm balanced out. i dont think converter will do the justice.

 

[surfgeorge]

2.5 balanced output much more different with 3.5 output?
Is it ok if i use a 3.5 to 2.5 with my SE headphones

Straight answer: NO
Balanced output is carrying a signal on both wires that go to one earpiece, a positive and a negative wave.
So you have a L+ and L- wave, and a R+ and R- wave

Unbalanced output has only one signal to each earpiece, and a common 0, the ground cable.
So L+, R+ and 0

You need headphones or earphones with a balanced cable.

 

[phucvm8x]

Straight answer: NO
Balanced output is carrying a signal on both wires that go to one earpiece, a positive and a negative wave.
So you have a L+ and L- wave, and a R+ and R- wave

Unbalanced output has only one signal to each earpiece, and a common 0, the ground cable.
So L+, R+ and 0

You need headphones or earphones with a balanced cable.

Thank you! I'm looking for some 2.5 balanced cable of Fiio

 

[milesjunkie]

2.5 balanced output much more different with 3.5 output?
Is it ok if i use a 3.5 to 2.5 with my SE headphones

Please do not do that. You will damage the player.

Do a search here and you’ll see you need a balanced cable. Or your existing headphone cable reterminated as balanced.

 

[phucvm8x]

Please do not do that. You will damage the player.

Do a search here and you’ll see you need a balanced cable. Or your existing headphone cable reterminated as balanced.

If I already have a balanced headphone and I want to use a converter jack to use with normal 3.5 output of my phone or my DAP, is it ok?
Does sound quality still better?

 

[surfgeorge]

If I already have a balanced headphone and I want to use a converter jack to use with normal 3.5 output of my phone or my DAP, is it ok?
Does sound quality still better?

YES, that is OK. You can connect a balanced headphone/eraphone cable to either balanced or unbalanced outputs, but not the other way around.
You will not gain the benefit of a balanced signal, but the cable may sound different. Those differences are small though.