The Headphone Driver Pics Thread
Aug 25, 2020 at 8:04 AM Post #1,471 of 2,240
I thought they'd be more tracing on the drivers. Also how?
I guess that's how Hifiman designed the he4xx to set them apart from their other more expensive models.
And for the puncture.. Long story short, but it's from my accidental slip of hand and a metal tweezer...
Gud thing there's no trances in that area. It still works normally and i don't hear any major "issues".

Well... at least i get to hear how it sounds to poke a hole on a thin planar diaphragm
 
Aug 25, 2020 at 3:27 PM Post #1,475 of 2,240
Soundmagic hp150
It's 53mm

Weird how many 53mm drivers have that kind of metal cover.
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Aug 25, 2020 at 3:33 PM Post #1,476 of 2,240
Soundmagic hp150
It's 53mm

Weird how many 53mm drivers have that kind of metal cover.
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I believe it originated from audio-technica design they've been using since the mid-90s. The entire driver design for all 53mm drivers are really similar to each other despite sounding so different. I have a 20 year old ath-ad10 and at first glance it looks the same as the newest ath-ad2000x
 
Aug 25, 2020 at 6:29 PM Post #1,478 of 2,240
Soundmagic hp150
It's 53mm

Weird how many 53mm drivers have that kind of metal cover.

Very interesting.

Its been a while since I looked at my hp150 and hp200 drivers, but I remember them looking different than the one you posted.
 
Aug 26, 2020 at 12:38 AM Post #1,481 of 2,240
Do you have link to the driver? Also what makes the HP-1 great?

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d467238563 found it on the japanese auction site, unfortunately it's only a single driver. I never heard the HP-1 myself, just the HP-50 and that was quite decent, definitely could have used some modding.


The biggest issue with all AMT's is the lack of bass. That's pretty much the main complaint against the ESS mark 1 and the Precide Ergo AMT. Some designs combined it with a dynamic driver to make up for it though others such as TakeT H2+ or the HEDDphones managed to solve the issue. Not sure how HEDDphones did it but TakeT managed to do it by changing the whole driving principle to a piezoelectric one. Funny enough the TakeT is probably the best bass headphones I ever heard and I'm still trying to get a pair. Anyway, it seems the driver from aliexpress is no exception. With just a frequency response of only 3k-40k, you might get a good mid-range and for sure fantastic highs but bass will be pretty much non-existent. Still it's always worth a try. You might need to play around with getting their resistance up a bit and use a decent amp to power them since their sensitivity is low as a headphone driver. Maybe a closed back enclosure could help with the bass issue. Soundstage might be an issue as well due to the enclosure design. I've thought of trying it myself but the prices were too prohibitive though going through some of the other listings, it might be cheap enough to give it a go.
 
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Aug 26, 2020 at 3:37 AM Post #1,482 of 2,240
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d467238563 found it on the japanese auction site, unfortunately it's only a single driver. I never heard the HP-1 myself, just the HP-50 and that was quite decent, definitely could have used some modding.



The biggest issue with all AMT's is the lack of bass. That's pretty much the main complaint against the ESS mark 1 and the Precide Ergo AMT. Some designs combined it with a dynamic driver to make up for it though others such as TakeT H2+ or the HEDDphones managed to solve the issue. Not sure how HEDDphones did it but TakeT managed to do it by changing the whole driving principle to a piezoelectric one. Funny enough the TakeT is probably the best bass headphones I ever heard and I'm still trying to get a pair. Anyway, it seems the driver from aliexpress is no exception. With just a frequency response of only 3k-40k, you might get a good mid-range and for sure fantastic highs but bass will be pretty much non-existent. Still it's always worth a try. You might need to play around with getting their resistance up a bit and use a decent amp to power them since their sensitivity is low as a headphone driver. Maybe a closed back enclosure could help with the bass issue. Soundstage might be an issue as well due to the enclosure design. I've thought of trying it myself but the prices were too prohibitive though going through some of the other listings, it might be cheap enough to give it a go.

do you know if there are any piezoelectric driver parts for sale?
 
Aug 26, 2020 at 4:30 AM Post #1,483 of 2,240
do you know if there are any piezoelectric driver parts for sale?

https://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=160255095

from TDK will be your best bet.

I also know of tiny tweeters and buzzer speakers.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33054795589.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.3.35123323H2BbH5&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=8d0a0840-700b-4eb8-a49f-35fa715250d4&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:8d0a0840-700b-4eb8-a49f-35fa715250d4,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#18_668#808#5965#363_668#888#3325#11_668#2846#8113#641_668#2717#7558#159_668#1000022185#1000066056#0_668#3468#15612#303

I used them for DIY guitar pickups. They may work as a transducer but I'm really unsure

However you could build you own if you could get hold of a piezoelectric film.

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Similar to how Pioneer did for the SE-300,500 and 700 headphones. Unfortunately I don't know an easy source of piezoelectric film.

mouser has a whole list of piezoelectric transducers for sale
https://www.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Audio-Devices/Speakers-Transducers/_/N-awp4u?P=1yyy7x3
but only the TDK seems to be designed for full range rather than just a buzzer.
 
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Aug 26, 2020 at 4:43 AM Post #1,484 of 2,240
https://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=160255095

from TDK will be your best bet.

I also know of tiny tweeters and buzzer speakers.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33054795589.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.3.35123323H2BbH5&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=8d0a0840-700b-4eb8-a49f-35fa715250d4&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:8d0a0840-700b-4eb8-a49f-35fa715250d4,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#18_668#808#5965#363_668#888#3325#11_668#2846#8113#641_668#2717#7558#159_668#1000022185#1000066056#0_668#3468#15612#303

I used them for DIY guitar pickups. They may work as a transducer but I'm really unsure

However you could build you own if you could get hold of a piezoelectric film.



Similar to how Pioneer did for the SE-300,500 and 700 headphones. Unfortunately I don't know an easy source of piezoelectric film.

mouser has a whole list of piezoelectric transducers for sale
https://www.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Audio-Devices/Speakers-Transducers/_/N-awp4u?P=1yyy7x3
but only the TDK seems to be designed for full range rather than just a buzzer.

How do the TDK piezoelectric drivers work? How does piezoelectric film compare to that of a planar magnetic one? The TDK film things are the driver itself? How does one assemble it into a headphone casing?
 
Aug 26, 2020 at 5:04 AM Post #1,485 of 2,240
How do the TDK piezoelectric drivers work? How does piezoelectric film compare to that of a planar magnetic one? The TDK film things are the driver itself? How does one assemble it into a headphone casing?

Piezoelectric works on a completely different principle than magnetic driven headphones. Some certain materials, when stressed is applied generates an electric charge. This is piezoelectric effect. The inverse is true as well. Apply a voltage or signal and the material will vibrate. Generally piezoelectric films are thicker than those used for dynamic or electrostatic headphones. The TDK things are themselves the drivers. I'd imagine gluing them onto a frame first and then putting that into a casing. There has never been a DIYed piezoelectric headphones that I know of so I'm really unsure of how to make headphones out of them.
 

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