wolfetan44
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What advantages do the Lyr and Crack posses with the DT880?
So I got my 880's.. I think they are great for rock!
But I have a question.. the cups feel sloppy.. If you push the ear cups all the way in (up) hold the headband in you hand and open it up so the cups do not ouch.. do they drop all the way out on their own?
Thanks.. The box was pretty damaged.. so i am trying to determine if there is an issue
One more for the road.. I need a USB amp to drive these.. the 250's sound good with my Dragonfly, but it is obvious there is more to be had here.
^ Interesting that you would get a DT880 when you already have a higher tier headphone in the HD800, particularly when the latter would seem to cover the same ground as the DT880, though with greater technical capability. That all said, would you say the DT880 does anything the HD800 doesn't?
I also find your observations about distance interesting. I've never really perceived the DT880 presentation as distancing, though we might be describing the same thing in different words. The way I hear it, it's more spherical than the typical (especially closed) headphone soundstage, which usually ends up being a line from ear to ear. With this sort of linear soundstaging, I always feel like I'm squinting at the music, similar to how it might feel to constantly try to focus on one's own nose. It can be borderline fatiguing depending on how bad it is. One of the reasons I sent the M50 back was that it was unusually bad in this regard for me. The DT880, on the other hand, doesn't do this at all. The music, instead of emanating mostly from the center of my head, seems to project on the inside of my skull and slightly above the horizon, so to speak.
For me, for any headphone's presentation to be an improvement on this it would have to retain the same basic staging and make gains in places like imaging (already quite good) and forming a good center image, one area where I think the DT880 is a bit weak. I assume this is where something like an HD800 is going to have a noticeable advantage over the old flagships.
Originally Posted by Argyris
Where exactly does this pairing fall short? Is it just in getting them up to volume, or is there something about the sound that seems lacking?
I got the DT880/600 out of curiosity (and the need for a semi-closed, high impedance phone I can use with the Crack).. I've always wanted to hear it. Regarding the HD800 vs DT880/600.. the HD800 excels in every conceivable area. That being said, the DT 880 functions well as a "poor man's HD800," IMO. The FQ graph shows more than a passing resemblance between the two. A lot of the things I like about the HD800's sound, I tend to hear in the DT 880, as well.
I just gave the DT880 a spin on the Vio stack.. wow, it sounds wonderful. The diffused nature of the soundstage seems "reigned in." While the stage remains wide, it's not quite as "sprawling." I sense better depth to the stage as well.. all of which leads to more natural center image projection & more precise imaging. The Vio stack is neutral, but has a slightly warm, smooth character .. this seems to mesh incredibly well with the also neutral, but slightly brighter, airy, DT 880... the resulting sound is one with more body and better tonal balance.
While the Vio stack sounds great with practically any headphone I've thrown at it (from ultra sensitive, custom IEMs to power hungry orthos), I'm convinced it performs optimally with phones that demand a lot of current or voltage to sound best. I'm also certain Beyer must've had some Vio products on hand when they were tuning the 880 cause they sound like a match made in HeadFi heaven.
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