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hmm maybe ill go with the O2 then i like my ddt880 the way it is now maybe a LITTLE more bass but that's it
hmm maybe ill go with the O2 then i like my ddt880 the way it is now maybe a LITTLE more bass but that's it
hmm maybe ill go with the O2 then i like my ddt880 the way it is now maybe a LITTLE more bass but that's it
I've already posted that FR graph and there are several ways to interpret it. If you're only talking "trebly", yes, the 600 ohm would seem to be the least bright (although that graph doesn't really line up with Headroom's). But you could also say that the 600 ohm has a rather bad suckout centered on 4khz, a very sensitive area of the frequency range. The thing is, that peak starting at 5khz is relatively easy to get rid of--a simple treble tone control on an integrated will suffice--whereas I'm not sure a suckout at 4khz is so easily dealt with. If you're happy with the sound of the 600 ohm go with it, but I wouldn't condemn the 250 ohm on that evidence alone. I had both versions at the same time and chose the 250 ohm, but I'm not prepared to go further with that comparison because the 600 ohm was used and the other new, and earpad fullness can have a large effect. All I can say is that with the 5khz peak largely ironed out, the 250 ohm (Pro in my case) is one hell of a headphone, even to the extent that I've been using it over an HE-500.
wahsmoh, you need to read my post in the context of two things: a) I'm interested in a neutral phone--no bass/treble emphasis, and b) I listen to classical only.
Obviously the DT880 has a treble emphasis but, as stated, it's fairly easily dealt with. Other than that it's remarkably balanced. It doesn't have the ultra smoothness of the orthos--there's some grain present as in all dynamic phones--and it doesn't have the bass extension. Other than that it sounds to me more like music, or at least classical music. To me the HE-500 felt like it had holes in the FR. Sometimes it felt a little over-sharp, sometimes dull depending on the recording. Lack of consistency is a sure sign there's something not quite right. Now jerg has done some mods that apparently improves the HE-500 considerably, so that would be worth investigating. I just wasn't prepared to start modding a $700 phone, especially when a $250 one was more satisfying to me on most material.
The HE-500 will never be anywhere near as comfortable as the DT880. It's just too much of a brick.
wahsmoh, you need to read my post in the context of two things: a) I'm interested in a neutral phone--no bass/treble emphasis, and b) I listen to classical only.
Obviously the DT880 has a treble emphasis but, as stated, it's fairly easily dealt with. Other than that it's remarkably balanced. It doesn't have the ultra smoothness of the orthos--there's some grain present as in all dynamic phones--and it doesn't have the bass extension. Other than that it sounds to me more like music, or at least classical music. To me the HE-500 felt like it had holes in the FR. Sometimes it felt a little over-sharp, sometimes dull depending on the recording. Lack of consistency is a sure sign there's something not quite right. Now jerg has done some mods that apparently improves the HE-500 considerably, so that would be worth investigating. I just wasn't prepared to start modding a $700 phone, especially when a $250 one was more satisfying to me on most material.
The HE-500 will never be anywhere near as comfortable as the DT880. It's just too much of a brick.
Have you considered the DT990s? DT990 Pros are only $150 new on Amazon. It's a V-shaped 880. More bass and more treble. If you find it too harsh, you can EQ it or add felt to the front of the driver. The DT770 varies. Some of the models are bass light but some are bass heavy. It's very inconsistent even among the same sets. DT990 is a safer bet.I just read a few reviews of the HE-500 and most tend to agree the HE-500 is close to the LCD-2 in sound signature. I just hope it's the headphone I'm looking for to satisfy my search for a more "musical" headphone with a slightly V-shaped curve. I am planning on using my DT880 for monitoring and mixing and another complimentary headphone for enjoying bassy music like hip-hop and EDM. I just don't want to sacrifice the mids or the treble and I feel like a DT770 would do that to me. Is it justifiable though to move up to Summit-Fi versus a cheaper Beyerdynamic sibling that could accomplish this thirst for excess bass?
Have you considered the DT990s? DT990 Pros are only $150 new on Amazon. It's a V-shaped 880. More bass and more treble. If you find it too harsh, you can EQ it or add felt to the front of the driver. The DT770 varies. Some of the models are bass light but some are bass heavy. It's very inconsistent even among the same sets. DT990 is a safer bet.
I'm looking to get a dt880 600 ohm.
What's the deal with Pro and Premium? Any sonic differences, or is it just cosmetic?
I running my DT880 Premium 600 from my NFB-15.32 and it works great, so I don't see why you have to use a Tube or hybrid amp.