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The Audeze LCD-2 Ortho thread (New)
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DamageInc77
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Great! Is it worth it to upgrade the cables to, let's say the Toxic-Cables Copper/silver mix?
http://toxic-cables.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_61&product_id=100
Or is changing cables just a placebo effect with these headphones?
Great! Is it worth it to upgrade the cables to, let's say the Toxic-Cables Copper/silver mix?
http://toxic-cables.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_61&product_id=100
Or is changing cables just a placebo effect with these headphones?
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Output impedance is a little high but it will work. It's not like the LCD-2 doesn't work without an amp despite what reading posts on this forum would have you believe.
Output impedance is a little high but it will work. It's not like the LCD-2 doesn't work without an amp despite what reading posts on this forum would have you believe.
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DamageInc77
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That would be great!
Thanks!
Thanks!
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It's been mentioned many times that the LCD2 has a small soundstage, does it really detract from the music experience?
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Small soundstage compared to what? The LCD-2 is impactful and intimate. One of the very best headphones
for enjoying the music experience, not analyzing it.
Small soundstage compared to what? The LCD-2 is impactful and intimate. One of the very best headphones
for enjoying the music experience, not analyzing it.
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aww man! I was quite enjoying the sluts and pornstars analogy... Just busy plugging my LCD2's in right now.. woooah..
cough.. sorry.
Been doing a bit A/Bing with my HE500's now that I've spent a week with the LCD2's. And I can't for the life of me decide which is better... just being honest.
The HE500's also have a dark character but they clearly have a treble lift. The LCD2's have a better soundstage, it's more whole, more inviting, the HE500's are wider when the music calls for it, more airy. The 500's have a nack of presenting every nuance with a slick charm. The LCD's offer detail in a more real (as if the musicians are actually there) fashion. I'm thinking, for all of the talk of the LCD's glossing and making music sound better than the actual recording is...there are other phones doing this even better!
The bass on the LCD2's is quite a lot better than the 500's. It is clearer and tighter, not any more powerful just more satisfying. I was convinced that the HE500's were better for classical music.. now I'm not so sure. The sense of space is better, as is the overall balance.. but the strings always sound a little light, a little fluffy in places, this is not good. I want texture,(of course my source may be at fault here rather than the hp) the LCD's reproduce strings with better speed and texture, they sound thicker. I think it may be a case that because the LCD2's are easier to drive, they are showing off in front of the Hifimans. Time will tell.
aww man! I was quite enjoying the sluts and pornstars analogy... Just busy plugging my LCD2's in right now.. woooah..
cough.. sorry.
Been doing a bit A/Bing with my HE500's now that I've spent a week with the LCD2's. And I can't for the life of me decide which is better... just being honest.
The HE500's also have a dark character but they clearly have a treble lift. The LCD2's have a better soundstage, it's more whole, more inviting, the HE500's are wider when the music calls for it, more airy. The 500's have a nack of presenting every nuance with a slick charm. The LCD's offer detail in a more real (as if the musicians are actually there) fashion. I'm thinking, for all of the talk of the LCD's glossing and making music sound better than the actual recording is...there are other phones doing this even better!
The bass on the LCD2's is quite a lot better than the 500's. It is clearer and tighter, not any more powerful just more satisfying. I was convinced that the HE500's were better for classical music.. now I'm not so sure. The sense of space is better, as is the overall balance.. but the strings always sound a little light, a little fluffy in places, this is not good. I want texture,(of course my source may be at fault here rather than the hp) the LCD's reproduce strings with better speed and texture, they sound thicker. I think it may be a case that because the LCD2's are easier to drive, they are showing off in front of the Hifimans. Time will tell.
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Most comparisons i read are with the HD800, but it can be argued that it's soundstage is too big. I like your description of the LCD2 though, really makes me want one right now!
Most comparisons i read are with the HD800, but it can be argued that it's soundstage is too big. I like your description of the LCD2 though, really makes me want one right now!
Regarding soundstage, I always wondered...
Doesn't it solely depend on the placement of the microphones? For example, listening to classical recordings on an HD800 or K702 might be an amazing experience because of the "air" around instruments and the extra width and height that is perceived, but isn't that just artificial and less true to what was actually recorded? From what I've seen, microphones aren't really placed far away from the musicians and are actually quite close most of the time.
Am I misguided, or is there some factor I haven't considered when it comes to soundstage?
Doesn't it solely depend on the placement of the microphones? For example, listening to classical recordings on an HD800 or K702 might be an amazing experience because of the "air" around instruments and the extra width and height that is perceived, but isn't that just artificial and less true to what was actually recorded? From what I've seen, microphones aren't really placed far away from the musicians and are actually quite close most of the time.
Am I misguided, or is there some factor I haven't considered when it comes to soundstage?
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Very true, I tend to think in terms of an actual concert when describing an hp's soundstage. For example, go and see a string quartet play; the sound is one whole in front of you, it's four people sat together. They need to sit this close for the instruments to be cohesive in what it is intended to be. If I was to listen to a quartet with the K702's for e'g, the intended cohesisim (just made that word up
) goes out the window, because it is stretched too far, making it sound thin, separated and not full.. unique yes, a novelty yes, but not realistic. An orchestral recording on the other hand is clearly going to benefit from a wider soundstage. Thats why I have always recommended the AKG's for orchestral music. Thats where the problem lies imo, a phone such as the LCD is never going to compete with a headphone designed with a wide soundstage for certain types of music that clearly benefit this. But in a pure hifi sense the LCD's do a very good job if you were to imagine a full orchestra in a smaller venue.. more intimate.
Very true, I tend to think in terms of an actual concert when describing an hp's soundstage. For example, go and see a string quartet play; the sound is one whole in front of you, it's four people sat together. They need to sit this close for the instruments to be cohesive in what it is intended to be. If I was to listen to a quartet with the K702's for e'g, the intended cohesisim (just made that word up
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It really depends actually. If you're talking about Jay-Z lips sanding a microphone, that's different. But a classical recording sometimes has mikes placed farther out, higher above. There's a lot of different miking techniques from what I understand.
And people often confuse their experiences sitting in an audience in a venue with where a sound engineer would place mikes recording the same performers (+ the recording might happen in a different venue altogether)
So the answer...probably...is that it depends.
It really depends actually. If you're talking about Jay-Z lips sanding a microphone, that's different. But a classical recording sometimes has mikes placed farther out, higher above. There's a lot of different miking techniques from what I understand.
And people often confuse their experiences sitting in an audience in a venue with where a sound engineer would place mikes recording the same performers (+ the recording might happen in a different venue altogether)
So the answer...probably...is that it depends.
DamageInc77
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None of you have any input on aftermarket cables?
Would anybody on this board even admit if it was a placebo effect?
Would anybody on this board even admit if it was a placebo effect?
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Can of worms. However I enjoy my Q cable. Why worry about placebo if it gives you "greater" enjoyment anyways.
Can of worms. However I enjoy my Q cable. Why worry about placebo if it gives you "greater" enjoyment anyways.
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