Aug 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM Post #766 of 1,380


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If it's cheap enough I'll buy them off you just to try it and sell it off a few weeks later :)
 
Your personal preferences does indeed matter more than how good or bad something is. There's a bunch of stuff I would have never bought had I know it wasn't suitable for my tastes.


Heh, heh... a PM is all you need to get this process moving.
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Aug 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM Post #767 of 1,380

 
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If it's cheap enough I'll buy them off you just to try it and sell it off a few weeks later :)
 
Your personal preferences does indeed matter more than how good or bad something is. There's a bunch of stuff I would have never bought had I know it wasn't suitable for my tastes.

 
Or you could always get my SE535s all the way from Europe, which would make them all the more special. On top of that they'd be coming from a one-of-a-kind Headphoneus Supremus. FYI, this one particular pair has already become a collector's item as stated by the very Financial Times of London & The New York Times and they will shortly be only available through Sotheby's or Christie's.
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 1:19 PM Post #768 of 1,380


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havent been keeping up with this thread but why does everyone get all uppity and/or defensive about liking a particular IEM or headphone for that matter? why is everyone a "fanboy" if they like their headphone and to their ears its great?  i think the term fanboy and its negative connotations are being thrown around for every little thing that comes on the market and its rather annoying. i was under the impression that a fanboy is someone that will stick with one brand, for the brand sake, not because its great.  IE. apple (nothing against apple, i think they make great stuff) someone who has the iphone, ipad, ipod, and swears on his life that apple is the tops in everything.
/shrug, is this why the old thread was closed? its just an IEM..... whoa.


I agree!!  There is no such thing as an "objective" opinion about how something "sounds."  All sonic evaluations are subjective, and if anyone tells you differently, they're either trying to fool you, or they're fooling themselves.
No ifs, ands, or buts about this, it's all subjective.  So accept one another's subjective opinions, and realize that's all they are.
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 1:21 PM Post #769 of 1,380


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Or you could always get my SE535s all the way from Europe, which would make them all the more special. On top of that they'd be coming from a one-of-a-kind Headphoneus Supremus. FYI, this one particular pair has already become a collector's item as stated by the very Financial Times of London & The New York Times and they will shortly be only available through Sotheby's or Christie's.


Hey, hey, hey.... mind your own business. This is my sale! 
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Besides, if he want's a set of SE535's he knows where to look for them too.... heh, heh...
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Aug 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM Post #770 of 1,380


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Fair question!  As a matter of fact, the quality of the LCD-2 has been verified and corroborated many times over by many other head-fiers besides myself.  I've never seen a single headphone garner such accolades before, but then again, I've never heard such a headphone as the LCD-2 before.  Yes, I am indeed enthusiastic, and many accuse me of fanboyism, but as I said, I temper myself and my comments are very genuine about any given product.  If I'm commenting about an objective measurement, then my comment is objective, if I'm commenting upon my subjective observation, the comment is, of course subjective, but with the considerations of someone who's been around the block a few times.  As they say, this ain't my first rodeo, kid.  
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well written.i am just a bit worried because of the contradictory comments on the treble.we'll see after sankar send me the email to drop the $1K.
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM Post #771 of 1,380


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well written.i am just a bit worried because of the contradictory comments on the treble.we'll see after sankar send me the email to drop the $1K.


Contradictions on treble?  You lost me.  What's this about Sankar?
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 2:25 PM Post #772 of 1,380


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well written.i am just a bit worried because of the contradictory comments on the treble.we'll see after sankar send me the email to drop the $1K

 
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Contradictions on treble?  You lost me.  What's this about Sankar?


Dear midoo1990 & kwkarth,

Only SM3 talk or SM3 compared to other phones, a bit of humour, or the odd bickering & squabbling here and there is allowed in this thread. Anything else MUST be taken elsewhere.

Thank you.  :)
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 2:29 PM Post #773 of 1,380


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Contradictions on treble?  You lost me.  What's this about Sankar?


some say that it is too dark and some say it is spot on,so its a contradiction
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nothing about sankar,i am just not paying for the lcd2 via paypal and will pay using other method and sankar is the one that is communicating with me.


 
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Dear midoo90 & kwkarth,

Only SM3 talk or SM3 compared to other phones, a bit of humour, or the odd bickering & here and there is allowed in this thread. Anything else MUST be taken elsewhere.

Thank you.  :)



Dear music,
 
you should say the same to yourself.you should take your se535 sale to the FS forum and stop bickering this thread.
anything but the sm3 MUST be taken elsewhere.
 
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Aug 19, 2010 at 2:32 PM Post #774 of 1,380
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havent been keeping up with this thread but why does everyone get all uppity and/or defensive about liking a particular IEM or headphone for that matter? why is everyone a "fanboy" if they like their headphone and to their ears its great?  i think the term fanboy and its negative connotations are being thrown around for every little thing that comes on the market and its rather annoying. i was under the impression that a fanboy is someone that will stick with one brand, for the brand sake, not because its great.  IE. apple (nothing against apple, i think they make great stuff) someone who has the iphone, ipad, ipod, and swears on his life that apple is the tops in everything.
/shrug, is this why the old thread was closed? its just an IEM..... whoa.



 
Aug 19, 2010 at 2:56 PM Post #775 of 1,380


 
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havent been keeping up with this thread but why does everyone get all uppity and/or defensive about liking a particular IEM or headphone for that matter? why is everyone a "fanboy" if they like their headphone and to their ears its great?  i think the term fanboy and its negative connotations are being thrown around for every little thing that comes on the market and its rather annoying. i was under the impression that a fanboy is someone that will stick with one brand, for the brand sake, not because its great.  IE. apple (nothing against apple, i think they make great stuff) someone who has the iphone, ipad, ipod, and swears on his life that apple is the tops in everything.
/shrug, is this why the old thread was closed? its just an IEM..... whoa.


It's not just an iem - as Lou Reed sang in a couple of songs on his concept album devoted to the SM3s, 'Balanced Armature Transformer', "Oh you're such a perfect iem, I'm glad I spent cash on you, oh you're such a perfect iem, you just keep me hanging on...to your cable.., doo doo doo" and "Earsonics, its my life and its my wife" and "earphone of love, earphone of love, eeeearphone...of...love..."
 
Speaking of which, Ms Cheerleader is reloading as I type, and its been a while since she took a man down (ahem), so you naughty boys best be good and fly straight now, you hear?
 
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM Post #776 of 1,380


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you are spot on.without anyone jumping at me,this thread and the previous locked one are hyped.very few rational opinions were written and as James-444 said,we should read between the lines and read the more unbiased opinions.
 
sm3 reminds me of ck10 and um3x thread. those two particular threads were pure fanboyism and unfortunatly because of this,ck10 and um3x owners didnt want to write or admit their faults and in the end i and i am sure others payed the expensive price.
 
so i want to thank music,James,DFKT,shigzeo,soozieq,cn11.......and others for writing an honest "rattional impressions".i am not thanking them because they wrote anything negative about the sm3,but because they took the time to write valid impressions and comparisons.
 
i hope this is not the case with the lcd2 thread because if it is,i will hunt you down if all your comments were just fanboyism(which i doubt,maybe a bit over-enthusiasm)
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Deja vu, this site is.
 
There will always (almost always at least) be people that like something, and others that don't.  If it weren't for the EM3 Pro, I would be listening to the SM3.  I have the same opinion of them that I did from the start, which does not necessarily agree with other names mentioned above.  Whatever they say does not influence or change what I am hearing!  From my reading when I was keeping up with this thread (well, the previous one) was James heard the SM3 completely differently than I do.
 
Bottom line is everyone's ears are different and especially everyone's perceptions are different!  Some people focus on the good, some people focus on the bad, some people are between.  Combine that with people hearing the same IEM differently because of physiology, tips, music, source, mood, experience, preference, expectations, etc.   the more people that hear something, the more chance there will be people that don't care for it.
 
Here is an example of how people hear things differently: crossfeed never works for me and I hear minimal differences at best while others claim they hear significant improvement.  And I have listened to old Beatles music trying to hear the crossfeed effects.
 
Fanboysim: Who can name one expensive IEM that does not have some fanboyism (unless it is universally disliked)?  I did like the CK10 at the time for what it brought to the table vs. what I had heard at the time, and still to this day it would be very listenable for me.  I didn't care for the UM3X, but I can respect it's virtues and that some other people hear it differently than I.  My thoughts on the TF10 are that it stinks and is not top-tier, but it is still on the top-tier chart because of the difference of opinion.  Speaking of hype...how many people are so very interested in the x-Jay because it has 4 BA drivers?  Will that make it far superior?
 
People need to set their expectations realistically for themselves, not based on what others say.  LCD-2, SM3, whatever, is it a sound signature you know you will like (the experienced people should know their preferences) and do you have the gear to drive it.  Speaking of the LCD-2, someone said it sounded flat, but they were using their iPod to drive it!  OK, what expectations did that person have?  $1K headphones with a $200 player?
 
Back to the SM3, I still think the SM3 is tops for me as far as universals I have heard (which now include the DBA-02).  I did switch from using the custom sleeves to using the sensorcom tips again as I think the sound is closer to the EM3 Pro across the midrange and treble.
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM Post #777 of 1,380


 
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It's not just an iem - as Lou Reed sang in a couple of songs on his concept album devoted to the SM3s, 'Balanced Armature Transformer', "Oh you're such a perfect iem, I'm glad I spent cash on you, oh you're such a perfect iem, you just keep me hanging on...to your cable.., doo doo doo" and "Earsonics, its my life and its my wife" and "earphone of love, earphone of love, eeeearphone...of...love..."
 
Speaking of which, Ms Cheerleader is reloading as I type, and its been a while since she took a man down (ahem), so you naughty boys best be good and fly straight now, you hear?
 


Quit the ridiculous threats! You know where I live... go ahead, just send Ms Cheerleader right on over! 
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Aug 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM Post #778 of 1,380


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havent been keeping up with this thread but why does everyone get all uppity and/or defensive about liking a particular IEM or headphone for that matter?


Welcome to head-fi.  The answer is of course yes!  Why else would we come here but to discredit other people for voicing their opinion on a message board? 
 
The new saying should be "sorry about your wallet and for the bullets that will fly when you post an overly* positive post"
 
* overly is subjective, depending on the disposition, mood, and preferences of others.  Good luck!
 
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Aug 19, 2010 at 3:21 PM Post #779 of 1,380

 
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...I did like the CK10 at the time for what it brought to the table vs. what I had heard at the time, and still to this day it would be very listenable for me.  I didn't care for the UM3X, but I can respect it's virtues and that some other people hear it differently than I.  My thoughts on the TF10 are that it stinks and is not top-tier, but it is still on the top-tier chart because of the difference of opinion.  Speaking of hype...how many people are so very interested in the x-Jay because it has 4 BA drivers?  Will that make it far superior? ...
 

 
average_joe, I still remember that week when you tried two faulty UM3X sets and you had the flu, a severe ear infection, had endless sleepless nights, were very depressed, were not eating properly, and couldn't stand the daily noisy NYC traffic.

I think it's time for you to give the UM3X a second chance.  :)
 
 
Aug 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM Post #780 of 1,380


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average_joe, I still remember that week when you tried two faulty UM3X sets and you had the flu, a severe ear infection, had endless sleepless nights, were very depressed, were not eating properly, and couldn't stand the daily noisy NYC traffic.

I think it's time for you to give the UM3X a second chance.  :)
 


You forgot that I also had extremely high blood pressure leading to partial, temporary deafness!  But really, how could anything beat the SM3?  How, just how?  Not possible as it is the super most bestest universal IEM ever!  I will [insert threat here] your [insert prized possession/pet/family member] if you say otherwise!
 
For those that haven't figured it out due to language barriers, that was sarcasm
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