Testing audiophile claims and myths

[Davesrose]

Name one.

?? Name one what??

 

[bigshot]

I don't judge images by numbers. I make them using the tools at hand- especially tools that don't get in my way. The difference between my ability to make great images hauling around a big honkin' DSLR and using a pocketable camera is much greater than the difference between raw and jpeg. I'm able to get better results using a camera without a gazillion menus and using jpeg, because I make better images with a camera that stays out of my way.

 

[Davesrose]

Walking around local wildlife parks and nature places some serious photographers have two or three DSLR's set up for quick action. Looks expensive though.

Some folks do that so that they don't have to change lenses (that does add up on cost)

 

[Davesrose]

I don't judge images by numbers. I make them using the tools at hand.

You're just being ridiculous. I have provided many examples of why RAW is used, and how it and dedicated cameras are tools used by professionals. No point trying to engage with you.

 

[Ryokan]

Some folks do that so that they don't have to change lenses (that does add up on cost)

Yes it's one drawback of DSLR's, changing lenses for different shots.

 

[Davesrose]

Yes it's one drawback of DSLR's, changing lenses for different shots.

But you have different lenses you can’t find with a smart phone or point and shoot. Fisheyes, wider or longer, tilt/shift for architecture.

 

[Ryokan]

But you have different lenses you can’t find with a smart phone or point and shoot. Fisheyes, wider or longer, tilt/shift for architecture.

Hence carrying two or more. And once you've bought them they should last years. Yes point and clicks can take good photos but there's something special about holding a DSLR.

 

[bigshot]

Steiglitz shot with a single lens- 35mm 2.8 I believe. He knew what it could do and used it. That actually is close to my ideal lens too. I have everything from long lenses to fisheyes. I bought them back when I was learning and thought that was what you needed. But equipment isn't what you need. I know a lot of artists and students often ask them what kind of pencil and paper they use. That question shows that the student doesn't understand what it really takes yet.

Most specialty lenses are for esoteric applications that most photographers never really run into. A fisheye lens is one of the most useless lenses I can think of. There's no reason for a super long lens when you can just move closer to the subject. Those guys at the zoo with three cameras hanging around their neck aren't really doing it to shoot photos. They're displaying like a peacock, hoping you'll come up to them and they can show off their gear. The idea is to choose a lens you need that day, not to have more cameras around your neck than a Swiss Army knife has blades. I don't know how people can visualize using three completely different setups at once. They must be letting the equipment dictate the picture they shoot.

 

[Davesrose]

Hence carrying two or more. And once you've bought them they should last years.

Yes, I have Canon lenses that are now 20 years old (and if I had had their EOS film cameras, could still be using EF lenses over 30 years old). Nature photographers might have a shorter lens in case there's something that will be closer by, vs a long one if there's a bird in the air (and they could also have cameras set to different settings for focusing and shooting one frame, vs burst photos with AI tracking for a bird).

If you look at sports, photographers might have several cameras they switch to....or now with wifi, they also can shoot remotely (either stills or movies).

 

[Ryokan]

Yes, I have Canon lenses that are now 20 years old (and if I had had their EOS film cameras, could still be using EF lenses over 30 years old). Nature photographers might have a shorter lens in case there's something that will be closer by, vs a long one if there's a bird in the air (and they could also have cameras set to different settings for focusing and shooting one frame, vs burst photos with AI tracking for a bird).

If you look at sports, photographers might have several cameras they switch to....or now with wifi, they also can shoot remotely (either stills or movies).

Is that with drones? I've seen some great aerial videos on Youtube of ancient sites and stately homes and buildings. Like King Alfred's Tower.

 

[bigshot]

You're not a professional photographer if you don't use a drone! (smiley here)

 

[Davesrose]

Is that with drones? I've seen some great aerial videos on Youtube of ancient sites and stately homes and buildings. Like King Alfred's Tower.

I meant current DSLRs/mirrorless. They have apps for your phone or tablet so that you can shoot them remotely.

 

[gregorio]

at least he admits when he's wrong

Once out of how many times?

unlike you, the countless times you've been called on the pathetically, ridculously stupid incorrect things you say.

Well of course, why on earth would I admit I’m wrong when I’m falsely “called out”? And while we’re on the subject, please provide some evidence of all these “countless times” when it wasn’t just some troll falsely calling me out!

“It would even be better for you, because you wouldn’t need to actually admit that you “stand corrected” (or just run away when it’s demonstrated) and you could avoid appearing ignorant.” - Not interested in avoiding that?

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[Ryokan]

I don't know how people can visualize using three completely different setups at once. They must be letting the equipment dictate the picture they shoot.

To be fair it was for animals and birds when I saw someone with three.

 

[Davesrose]

To be fair it was for animals I saw someone with three.

Yeah, it's not "all at once". They have some basic exposure settings set the same, cameras with the same interface, and they switch to a camera one at a time (it's just they're trying to save time not exchanging lenses and changing their AF and/or shooting mode).