SR60-Mod part II

[xaval]

Offtopic, but how do you like your Grados compared to your Lambda?

I have no idea. I've been trying to get my 1 st grado forever... Long story...
However, I expect to post impressions next week if all goes well.

I'm not expecting any miracles. The lamba's mid range is the best my ears have ever heard and I'm not really expecting that to be beaten my a modded Ms1. However the alessandros should have a few tricks up their pads too.

 

[xaval]

I think this Cabillas cups fit here and nowhere else!
 

 

[wje]

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You're saying perforated side up?

Kojaku

yes.
 

 

[Nightslayer]

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I think this Cabillas cups fit here and nowhere else!
 

You got em from him? It looks wonderful. Any way you could get your hands on a HF2 and compare the sound?
 
 

 

[wje]

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 I'm not expecting any miracles. The lamba's mid range is the best my ears have ever heard and I'm not really expecting that to be beaten my a modded Ms1. However the alessandros should have a few tricks up their pads too.

I think this is where I've made mistakes in my judgment.  In the "old" thread, I've indicated that I didn't think the Alessandro MS-1i was on par with the SR-225i when it came to drivers.  The SR-225i, after all, is supposed to be closely matched just as the SR-325i (quite possibly making them the exact same driver as has been discussed ad nauseum here).  However, the more I get into the MS-1i pair that I have with wooden (basic) cups, the more impressed I get with the driver.  The highs are not piercing, the mids are great and the bass is wonderful - thanks to the recommended driver mods.  
 
I'm now to the point where I'm finding it harder to tell the difference between the MS-1i and the SR-225.  Both have exactly the same driver modifications.  Yes, the cups are different - and do vary.  Different materials, masses - in size, etc.  However, I'm just as proud of the sound from the MS-1i as the SR-225/SR-225i.  For the sake of argument, we'll have to give the perceived nod to the "SR" drivers.  But, the MS-1i are quite capable at making most, if not all, ears happy when placed in some wooden cups with driver modifications.
 

 

[xaval]

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You got em from him? It looks wonderful. Any way you could get your hands on a HF2 and compare the sound?

No. It's just some cups he got built for a friend and posted elsewhere. I though of also posting that pic here because on the old thread he had posted some similar pics out of a group buy for a similar project. This pic is much more awesome.
 
I don't have an HF2, sorry.
 

 

[wje]

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No. It's just some cups he got built for a friend and posted elsewhere. I though of also posting that pic here because on the old thread he had posted some similar pics out of a group buy for a similar project. This pic is much more awesome.
 

With that picture of the wooden inserts from Cabellas, I do see the cut-out where it appears a liberated driver would be inserted.  However, I don't see the part of the wooden cup where the pads would be inserted onto.  I wonder if there's another part to that wooden component for the cup?
 

 

[wje]

 
I don't think Cabillas would mind me for sharing this picture.  Clearly, the lathe being used of an industrial-quality variety.  Plus, I like the use of the "old school" calipers in the picture.  Nowadays, if I walk into a home superstore, all their calipers are digital.  Nothing old school seems to exist anymore.
 
 

 

[Nightslayer]

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With that picture of the wooden inserts from Cabellas, I do see the cut-out where it appears a liberated driver would be inserted.  However, I don't see the part of the wooden cup where the pads would be inserted onto.  I wonder if there's another part to that wooden component for the cup?
 

That's what I thought too, but if you look closely enough.. the lip is actually there. Go look at the picture again
 
@Xaval: I was operating from the assumption that you had a headphone setup with those shells, so I was curious as to how similar it would sound to the HF2s, since by all means they should be nearly identical in physical composition.
 

 

[wje]

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That's what I thought too, but if you look closely enough.. the lip is actually there. Go look at the picture again
 

 
Ah yes, you're correct.  I need an eye exam, too.  Since our insurance has that feature, I'll get it done soon.

 

[chrislangley4253]

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I'm now to the point where I'm finding it harder to tell the difference between the MS-1i and the SR-225.  Both have exactly the same driver modifications.  Yes, the cups are different - and do vary.  Different materials, masses - in size, etc.  However, I'm just as proud of the sound from the MS-1i as the SR-225/SR-225i.  For the sake of argument, we'll have to give the perceived nod to the "SR" drivers.  But, the MS-1i are quite capable at making most, if not all, ears happy when placed in some wooden cups with driver modifications.
 

 
thats pretty much how i feel with the sr80 drivers.. They are a bit smoother, but a bit less detailed. Either way, both sound great. 
 

 

[Kojaku]

I'm personally predisposed to detailed sound, having owned both before. I can smooth out bright sound if I want to, finding ways to do it without compromising detail. But changing detail and extension is often difficult without compromising in some way, at least as I see it.

Kojaku

 

[KneelJung]

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Watching people use a lathe and even videos on youtube, it doesn't seem extremely difficult. I'm sure it takes some practice but with the right tools and a little time you could probably be decent in a few days to a week of practice.

I stopped by that woodshop today, it's 8,000 sq. ft. I've been there a couple of times before but it's a good size shop that has lot's of woodworking goodies. 11 lathes, some drill presses, and many other assorted goodies. Me thinks I need to join and learn how to turn wood and develop some wood working skills. I want my next set of cups to be completely DIY and I need another hobby. 
 

 

[wje]

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I stopped by that woodshop today, it's 8,000 sq. ft. I've been there a couple of times before but it's a good size shop that has lot's of woodworking goodies. 11 lathes, some drill presses, and many other assorted goodies. Me thinks I need to join and learn how to turn wood and develop some wood working skills. I want my next set of cups to be completely DIY and I need another hobby. 
 

 
That would be great.  Remember, dreaming and coming up with the concept is half the fun, too.  Look at some of the cups that Marty has turned out - two types of wood glued together before hitting the lathe.  So many possibilities.  Also, if you Google for various species of woods, you'll pieces and prices of what's available.  Basically, there's people from all over the U.S. selling 4" x 4" x various lengths of wood for purchase.  You'll be turning cups and sanding them in no time at all.
 
 

 

[buffalowings]

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You got em from him? It looks wonderful. Any way you could get your hands on a HF2 and compare the sound?
 
 

jebus that looks awesome..inserts for sr325's...