candlejack
Headphoneus Supremus
Wow, so much knowledge being dropped on us in the last 2 posts.
Agreed. But the bass in the VE8s are real good thoBA and bass don't belong in the same sentence mate. Anyone not running a hybrid or pure DD is just compensating at this point. Same with resolution and electrostats. Nothing quite as resolving as the KSEs.
Actually you can have really good low end with BA, if well implemented and you have a good seal, but you will never have the extension of a DD well implemented and tuned. As I mentioned on Youtube reviewer that was praising an BA low end as "the best in the world and can't be better" (a lot of hype), we need to understand the difference between "BA low end" and "DD low end" before saying that. Noble Khan is an example of DD low end not explored as expected.BA and bass don't belong in the same sentence mate. Anyone not running a hybrid or pure DD is just compensating at this point. Same with resolution and electrostats. Nothing quite as resolving as the KSEs.
Apparently quite a few Andro were put up for sale though, based on what has been said here.So many promised "vs Andro S" impressions, none delivered... smh.
I'm assuming when you mention "good BA bass" you refer to the U12t? I'm not surprised given I have heard it and found it impressive but nonetheless it still couldn't replicate what a poorly impelemented DD such as the Solaris/Khan did for me. It felt like a very "forced" lift in the bass region. In fact, I found the U18t to be punchier although it languished behind in sub-bass.Z
Actually you can have really good low end with BA, if well implemented and you have a good seal, but you will never have the extension of a DD well implemented and tuned. As I mentioned on Youtube reviewer that was praising an BA low end as "the best in the world and can't be better" (a lot of hype), we need to understand the difference between "BA low end" and "DD low end" before saying that. Noble Khan is an example of DD low end not explored as expected.
Although I haven't demoed the VE8 (very difficult to get a hold of), I might be inclined to agree purely based on the VE8's reputation as being among the best at timbral reproduction.Agreed. But the bass in the VE8s are real good tho
a poorly impelemented DD such as the Solaris/Khan did for me
I would call it relative. The Khan has fairly consistent sub-bass but the mid-bass lacks authority. The Solaris fares better than the Khan (to my ears) but it certainly is not quite as "dense" per se as the Z1R. Again, just how I hear things. Ymmv. I'd ask you to demo them before passing judgement based on written reviews.What do you not like about the bass in the Solaris/Khan? While I know it's not as earth shaking as the bass in the Z1R I love the bass in Solaris and have heard good things about the Khan as far as bass goes.
Well, I'm about to put one of my Andromeda up for sale, but completely unrelated to the discussion here.Apparently quite a few Andro were put up for sale though, based on what has been said here.
I would call it relative. The Khan has fairly consistent sub-bass but the mid-bass lacks authority. The Solaris fares better than the Khan (to my ears) but it certainly is not quite as "dense" per se as the Z1R. Again, just how I hear things. Ymmv. I'd ask you to demo them before passing judgement based on written reviews.
Personally I have found that sometimes despite all the discussion and positive hype something is given, it's more telling what someone actually decides to part with in the end.Well, I'm about to put one of my Andromeda up for sale, but completely unrelated to the discussion here.
I would need to spend more time with the Khan and Polaris, but the time I spent with them (a couple hours), both didn't impress me. At that time I had my Andromeda S as reference. I will try to spend more time with them at some point. Also the JH Lola and JH Roxanne, those are also on my list.
PS.: if anyone has any of those and is selling/swapping, let me know.
Still there is something about the IER-Z1R which could make someone basically sell off everything else! Lol.