What do you mean by "w signature"?
Certainly not a signature that could be ascribed to the Pryma. It has midrange warmth, tone and timbre to die for.
And boomy bass.
What do you mean by "w signature"?
Certainly not a signature that could be ascribed to the Pryma. It has midrange warmth, tone and timbre to die for.
And boomy bass.
And boomy bass.
Does the Pryma sound like Momentum 1.0, but more comfortable and transparent. (Do they have the sweet mids of Momentum and the slightly fat bass, but less congested - perfect for female vocals in r&b and pop,)
I seemed to like the headphones that Dalethorn review- Nighthawk, DT 1770.
Does the Pryma sound like Momentum 1.0, but more comfortable and transparent. (Do they have the sweet mids of Momentum and the slightly fat bass, but less congested - perfect for female vocals in r&b and pop,)
I seemed to like the headphones that Dalethorn review- Nighthawk, DT 1770.
No, the Pryma is slightly more transparent and 'exciting'.
The bass is detailed but has quite some oomph to it, and a long lasting decay that can be described as 'boomy'.
This is not a negative trait if you value that kind of response - 'boomy' is only a word used to describe a kind of bass quality that has a slow decay like a sub-woofer in a medium-large living room that may not be particularly well acoustically treated.
Some people quite enjoy this type of bass, as in most environments this can sound NATURAL.
I think too many people describe 'boominess' as a negative trait - when quite often it sounds more natural than something with SUPER tight, fast-punchy bass, which sounds more like a bass instruments recorded in a studio or anechoic environment.
I find that type of sound to be interesting, and valuable, but not particularly 'natural'.
I think the Pryma leans on the side of boominess that is leaning on the edge of being a bit too much - like a sub-woofer that is turned up too loudly in a small room with not much furniture or acoustic treatment to compensate.
The Momentum M1 is leaning on the side of 'bass lean' depending on the recording. Sometimes it hits the sweet spot, as it is bass shy of the 'Harman target curve' in most situations (a curve I find particularly relevant and mirrors my experiences with headphone listening).
Regarding Nighthawk and DT1770 - I found the DT1770 absolutely sublime. Truly a stunning closed-back headphone.
The Nighthawk I felt was just very very boomy and loose bass. Not enjoyable at all unless used at rather low listening volumes.
The NH bass flattens out alot after a burn in.
Do you respect another headfiers opinions?
Stop judging other people so negatively and learn to respect their opinions -__-
That explains why some ppl that I trust the opinion of enjoy it so much.
I couldn't get my head around how much they enjoyed it versus how badly it sounded to me.
I've listened to the same floor model 3 times over a couple of months in the same shop, but I guess nobody gave it decent burn-in even over that time period.
I wouldn't be surprised if most people simply took it off immediately after scoffing at it.
Maybe it's something to do with the drivers being designed more like loudspeakers with the rubber surrounds.
Either way, it does some absolutely lovely at low volumes.
Seriously? Perhaps you might want to heed your own advice and stop crapping on posts where people are giving their opinions. Just a suggestion..
That explains why some ppl that I trust the opinion of enjoy it so much.
I couldn't get my head around how much they enjoyed it versus how badly it sounded to me.
I've listened to the same floor model 3 times over a couple of months in the same shop, but I guess nobody gave it decent burn-in even over that time period.
I wouldn't be surprised if most people simply took it off immediately after scoffing at it.
Maybe it's something to do with the drivers being designed more like loudspeakers with the rubber surrounds.
Either way, it does some absolutely lovely at low volumes.
No, the Pryma is slightly more transparent and 'exciting'.
The bass is detailed but has quite some oomph to it, and a long lasting decay that can be described as 'boomy'.
This is not a negative trait if you value that kind of response - 'boomy' is only a word used to describe a kind of bass quality that has a slow decay like a sub-woofer in a medium-large living room that may not be particularly well acoustically treated.
Some people quite enjoy this type of bass, as in most environments this can sound NATURAL.
I think too many people describe 'boominess' as a negative trait - when quite often it sounds more natural than something with SUPER tight, fast-punchy bass, which sounds more like a bass instruments recorded in a studio or anechoic environment.
I find that type of sound to be interesting, and valuable, but not particularly 'natural'.
I think the Pryma leans on the side of boominess that is leaning on the edge of being a bit too much - like a sub-woofer that is turned up too loudly in a small room with not much furniture or acoustic treatment to compensate.
The Momentum M1 is leaning on the side of 'bass lean' depending on the recording. Sometimes it hits the sweet spot, as it is bass shy of the 'Harman target curve' in most situations (a curve I find particularly relevant and mirrors my experiences with headphone listening).
Regarding Nighthawk and DT1770 - I found the DT1770 absolutely sublime. Truly a stunning closed-back headphone.
The Nighthawk I felt was just very very boomy and loose bass. Not enjoyable at all unless used at rather low listening volumes.
If you feel that Momentum is bass lean, wouldn't DT 1770 be even leaner ???
IMHO in terms of Bass, NH > Momentum > DT 1770, so I can assume I cannot place Pryma in place of Momentum
Current usage
Classic rock - DT 1770
Pop, R&B & Soul, Jazz (simple vocal music with little instruments) - Momentum
Heavy rock & Metal - Nighthawk
Where does Pryma fit into the genres?
Only lean depending on the recording and the situation.
I use the Momentums almost exclusively outdoors and I find that they mostly need a small EQ bass and treble boost.
The boost compensates nicely for the external noise as I tend to listen at fairly low/moderate volumes.
Honestly, I thought the 1770 felt like it has slightly more bass weight, but probably due to a more recessed midrange - but not in a tasteless way. So while the bass volume might be less it feels bigger. Does that make sense?
Momentum bass is more chunky, and feels smaller, 1770 feels more 'enveloping' and authoritative. Might also be because of the much larger cup size giving space for bass to breath.
I would place the Pryma in the same territory as the Momentum as the bass volume is about the same/similar.
I don't normally assign headphones to genres, but if I had to, it would err on the side of Pop/R&B etc.
I wouldn't consider it a upgrade, more of a side-grade.