superlowfi
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To be fair it wasn't just the frequency response graph, there were also some very exotic-looking (and pretty!) distortion graphs posted which caused a similar fervor.
To be fair it wasn't just the frequency response graph, there were also some very exotic-looking (and pretty!) distortion graphs posted which caused a similar fervor.
Hi viralcow - I just want to mention, I saw your feedback on these headphones and it was valuable to me. You clearly gave them a fair shot and didn't like them. Fair enough. But according to the content of this thread, your approach was the exception, not the rule. Many responses in this thread have been simply "the graphs aren't good enough for me, this headphone is trash", or "I listened to them and confirmed the graphs LOWFI!" (ie. self-fulfilling prophecy type of opinion).
It is interesting to me how some of the most negative (and heated) criticism of these came from the crowds that actually produce the graphs (Tyll + Purrin). I do not claim to have a trained ear for frequency response and distortion, but when in doubt I would tend to "trust the experts". I ordered them and if they aren't up to my pedestrian and plebeian standards I will return them, but I will try not to color my impression of them based on some very "pretty pictures".
1) I find it hilarious that people on this forum can claim a headphone to be terrible based on a frequency response. No human ear is the same, we all hear frequencies differently.
2) These are probably one of the most neutral headphones out there is which is a more objective way to judge the frequency response graph. You can always EQ to change the neutral frequency response to something warm or whatever you want. If you want more bass, just add it.
But I'm just saying, the people behind this, like Tyll and Purrin, aren't doing blind graph-bashing.
I've been reading up on the negative impressions of the 1840 and quite frankly it baffles me. Then again, most of these are from when they were $700 which I will say was far overpriced. These seem about right at the current price.
Yup... that was actually my main "con" for the headphones.
At the time I also had the Sennheiser HD600s and the Shure's actually sound very similar in nature to the HDs... so for the price it made more sense to keep the Senns. But they do sound pleasant indeed and at $400 they definitely compete!
To all those people who think a $400 Sennheiser HD600 is comparable to a Shure SRH 1840, think again. You need to buy a serious amplifier for a Sennheiser HD600 which is not free.
May I ask if you've owned both - and had both at the same time? Just for the record (I - like Gelocks - have. And I do agree with his thoughts.)
The HD600 is not as hard to drive as anyone thinks. Although it is 300 ohm and has an impedance peak around 100 Hz - it's surprisingly easy to drive. It does scale far better with amplification - but it sounds excellent even out of a DAP with reasonable power. I know with my HiSound Audio Studio V3 - the HD600 is very good.
You don't need to buy a serious amplifier with the HD600 - but it will benefit the more power you give it.
Interestingly enough - after owning both, I also chose to keep the HD600 and sell the SRH1840. I loved the neutrality of the 1840 - and if they were the same price, I would need to think carefully about which was better for my preferences. But for actual 'natural' rather than 'neutral' sound - the HD600 is very hard to beat. IMO the 1840 (while voiced similarly) still does not convey the same natural tone and timbre. YMMV.
This forum is just as good at steering people wrong as it can right. In the past I've seen some claims of ATH-M50 sound better than SRH840. I've owned both those headphones and till own SRH840 and there is no way in hell the M50 sounds better than the SRH840.
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I bought mine for $450 and it works great on my Apogee One (yes, a soundcard )or even straight out of my Retina Macbook Pro. With the Sennheiser HD600 you need to be buy something better than an Apogee One to drive them properly which adds to the price.
I compared the Shure SRH 1840 in a shop against many headphones and I even preferred the Shure SRH 1840 over the HD700 as it was too coloured.