I picked up a pair of se535 cl in Canada about a month ago. It's my third pair lol I got a really good deal I think anyways. Brand new for 325 But there is no warranty but that's ok still a great price up here. They go for around 650.00 here. You know I never liked the cable just to cumbersome. But I've been using them at the gym,(they aren't my go to iem and I got them pretty cheap so I really don't mind using them to workout with) anyways these are really stage monitors among used for personal listening. I've been using them with the cable behind my head instead of in front at the gym and it's working really well. They stay put and really don't have to fiddle with them much to stay in place. So I believe the cable is made long like it is and robusk like it is for using them on stage behind your head. So as the cable sucks using the 535 for personal listening in the front of you it's really quite good behind your head. Anyways I'm rambling lol really enjoying these iems once more!