[TheoS53]

Agreed. If I were a DAP maker like say Shanling or Cayin, I would want the software and firmware under my control.

If you want a good example of why this can also be a bad idea, look at Fiio. IMO, unless a DAP maker has the software expertise to doa proper job of the UI, it's best to outsource it.

 

[originalsnuffy]

If you want a good example of why this can also be a bad idea, look at Fiio. IMO, unless a DAP maker has the software expertise to doa proper job of the UI, it's best to outsource it.

That worked pretty well for the Shanling M1 and M2S in 2017 which are reasonably stable. I hope it will work for the Cayin N5II, which is effectively a 2018 product, but right now its just one step short of being fully stable.

Unfortunately, at the same time as Cayin put out a marvelous piece of hard in 2018, HiBy has become both a supplier to the industry and a competitor. In the long run, I think Shanling is making the right move to create their own software base. Maybe they can create a coalition with FIIO, Cayin, etc. to do what HiBy originally was doing. Please do not get me wrong; I would love to be wrong and have HiBy be just as invested in their firmware customers as in their own products. I just have not seen scenarios like this work out so well in the past.

 

[TheoS53]

That worked pretty well for the Shanling M1 and M2S in 2017 which are reasonably stable. I hope it will work for the Cayin N5II, which is effectively a 2018 product, but right now its just one step short of being fully stable.

Unfortunately, at the same time as Cayin put out a marvelous piece of hard in 2018, HiBy has become both a supplier to the industry and a competitor. In the long run, I think Shanling is making the right move to create their own software base. Maybe they can create a coalition with FIIO, Cayin, etc. to do what HiBy originally was doing. Please do not get me wrong; I would love to be wrong and have HiBy be just as invested in their firmware customers as in their own products. I just have not seen scenarios like this work out so well in the past.

Yeah it does seem like a bit of a conflict of interest, doesn't it?
I'm also all for manufacturers doing their own thing, but I much prefer functionality and stability over variety. So far the limited impressions seem to point towards the idea that Shanling have done a good job on their own with the M0..so let's wait and see how this pans out.

On a different note. I recently got my first Kindle, and I must admit that I'm really liking the e-ink display. I think what I like most is the simplicity, coupled with the excellent legibility. I wonder if we'll ever see DAPs using this type of display...maybe after some more R&D and once we can get e-ink to be truly full-colour.

 

[boblauer]

If I understood what I was told Shanlings M Touch OS has been in development for quite some time so the decision to do their own thing was thought out. In the 30 minutes I played with it I could not make it misbehave, it's very well done. That's not saying its perfect as I'm sure there may be a odd gesture somewhere. IMO it's the right long term decision.

 

[kamisu66]

Hi, I was wondering if the M0 will have album-artist sorting in addition to just artist sorting? Thanks!

 

[technobear]

Hi, I was wondering if the M0 will have album-artist sorting in addition to just artist sorting? Thanks!

Amazingly, if you scroll to the top of the page, enter 'album-artist' into the search box, check 'Search this thread only' and the click the search button, this happens:

https://www.head-fi.org/search/8330288/?q=album-artist&t=post&o=relevance&c[thread]=874859

 

[alamakazam]

watch strap please haha

 

[andi16]

Is there a way to use M0 as a source (connected to usb dac - mojo for example) and charge it (M0) at the same time?

 

[DBaldock9]

Is there a way to use M0 as a source (connected to usb dac - mojo for example) and charge it (M0) at the same time?

May require assembling a custom USB-C to Micro-USB OTG cable.

I've got some cables that are the other way around - Micro-USB to USB-A OTG (which I connect a USB-C cable to), with a third leg that allows connecting a charger for the Micro-USB.

 

[paddler57]

I'm sure something like this would work:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3NOFXQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_LB3YAb74GTYM3

 

[kretzschmar]

Anyone know if pairing with airpods is capable?

 

[boblauer]

Airpods can connect via BT 4.0.

 

[C97DDR]

Changed my mind, won't wait for Canjam London, will order one as soon as I find an authorized dealer that ships to Belgium

Well, Headphoniaks, in Madrid, has it on its website, though it's not available yet.

 

[silverfishla]

watch strap please haha

Imagine running on a treadmill with some BT earphones and scrolling through this device on a wrist strap. That is this device. The UI is well designed and the touchscreen is nimble. It will be the athelete's dream dap.

 

[Deftone]

OTG certification is not required for USB type C cables.