[Krutsch]

Hmm...I like the new Coldplay but find it not well recorded. None of their albums are imo

 
Or, maybe, it could be that Chris Martin can't hold a note.

 

[Krutsch]

   
It's not a bad recording, but it's nothing special, either.  At least the HD650s are fairly forgiving of bad recordings.  If I put on my DT990s, it would find every fault, I'm sure.

 
Hmmm, really?  I guess it's all about perspective and I am definitely still learning.  My experience is also limited with different phones, but I would state the converse: my "break-in" with my 650s has me seeking out recordings that to my ears are well mastered/recorded.
 
Seriously, there are albums in my collection that I cannot listen to with the 650s that I find tolerable or enjoyable with my Grados.

 

[olegausany]

@olegausany .. did your S.E.X. have the C4S upgrade?  You liked the HD650 off (Matt's) BH Crack more than you did the BH S.E.X. ?

No it doesn't C4S , and yes i prefer Matt's Crack ( don't forget it's moded and has speedball) plus E80CC/5998 combo

 

[hodgjy]

   
Hmmm, really?  I guess it's all about perspective and I am definitely still learning.  My experience is also limited with different phones, but I would state the converse: my "break-in" with my 650s has me seeking out recordings that to my ears are well mastered/recorded.
 
Seriously, there are albums in my collection that I cannot listen to with the 650s that I find tolerable or enjoyable with my Grados.

 
You're right, it's all relative and varies with experience and expectations.  When I got my first "good" setup (WA3 and DT880), I became so much more aware of sounds on all my albums that I didn't know existed, and this included recording imperfections.
 
After spending the last 5 or so years listening to my music with decent gear, I've become accustomed to bad recordings, so I'm less critical of them now.  
 
The HD650s are very resolving headphones, and they'll certainly elucidate tons more sounds and imperfections than $20 cheap headphones/ear buds do.  But, when compared to other really revealing "good" headphones on my same gear, the HD650s are more forgiving because they are smooth sounding.  Bright headphones are more revealing of many types of recording imperfections.
 
Even the Sennheiser official HD650 product description hints at them being less analytic and more forgiving to maximize listening enjoyment.

 

[Solrighal]

My 650's are far easier to listen to than my Q701's. So much so the Q's are back in their box and looking for a new home. There's no real difference in detail retrieval but the delivery is much smoother and far less fatiguing.

And Coldplay are mince, imo.

 

[Androb]

My 650's are far easier to listen to than my Q701's. So much so the Q's are back in their box and looking for a new home. There's no real difference in detail retrieval but the delivery is much smoother and far less fatiguing.

And Coldplay are mince, imo.

I sold mine aswell!

 

[jimmers]

My 650's are far easier to listen to than my Q701's. So much so the Q's are back in their box and looking for a new home. There's no real difference in detail retrieval but the delivery is much smoother and far less fatiguing.

So true., my Q701s are in a drawer at work, my HD650s are on my head.

 

[MattTCG]

   
Or, maybe, it could be that Chris Martin can't hold a note.

 
Haha, made me laugh. 

No it doesn't C4S , and yes i prefer Matt's my Crack ( don't forget it's moded and has speedball) plus E80CC/5998 combo

FIFY

 

[ButtUglyJeff]

   
Haha, made me laugh. 
FIFY

 
You didn't think we were going to notice the update to your sig?  Comments?

 

[MattTCG]

   
You didn't think we were going to notice the update to your sig?  Comments?

 
You mean the pm-1?

 

[ButtUglyJeff]

   
You mean the pm-1?

 
Please share...

 

[MattTCG]

The pm-1 is a good hp. The design and execution is top notch and some of the best out there IMO. This is impressive for a company producing it's first hp. The weight, comfort, materials and engineering of this hp is exceptional. 
 
They weigh slightly more than the 650, but only just. And the pm-1 offers they same level of comfort as the 650. In fact the pm-1 offers some very similar characteristics of the hd650. Both have a darker presentation with good mid bass and excellent mids. It would only be a small stretch to call the pm-1 a planar magnetic version of the hd650, with the pm-1 offering slightly better resolution and a slight tilt towards sub bass over mid bass. 
 
Both hp's are forgiving in nature and non fatiguing. The pm-1 images somewhat better and it's materials outclass the 650 by a good margin. It's also very forgiving of amp and does not scale as well as the 650. 

 

[DaemonSire]

  The pm-1 is a good hp. The design and execution is top notch and some of the best out there IMO. This is impressive for a company producing it's first hp. The weight, comfort, materials and engineering of this hp is exceptional. 
 
They weigh slightly more than the 650, but only just. And the pm-1 offers they same level of comfort as the 650. In fact the pm-1 offers some very similar characteristics of the hd650. Both have a darker presentation with good mid bass and excellent mids. It would only be a small stretch to call the pm-1 a planar magnetic version of the hd650, with the pm-1 offering slightly better resolution and a slight tilt towards sub bass over mid bass. 
 
Both hp's are forgiving in nature and non fatiguing. The pm-1 images somewhat better and it's materials outclass the 650 by a good margin. It's also very forgiving of amp and does not scale as well as the 650. 

 
Matt, do you see yourself keeping the PM-1 over the HD650?

 

[vkalia]

Dunno about Matt, but i own both and if i had to keep only one, i'd keep the HD650 over the PM1s.   

 

[MattTCG]

Dunno about Matt, but i own both and if i had to keep only one, i'd keep the HD650 over the PM1s.   

I still have the 650 and returned the pm-1