[Maxvla]

Well the HD650 is one of the most colored headphones in the industry, I don't know if you will find another like it but better.

 

[Anaxilus]

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Well the HD650 is one of the most colored headphones in the industry, I don't know if you will find another like it but better.

Granted they are on the darker side of things but 'most' colored seems a bit much.  Especially when there's another German company starting with 'U' and ending with 'ltrasone'.
 

 

[purrin]

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It's difficult to express, mainly because I do concede the LCD-2 is "superior" in many ways. Short answer? I find the HD650 more fun and engaging.

Indeed, on the right rig, the HD650 is very involving.
 

 

[Maxvla]

I guess what I mean is that they were intentionally colored by Sennheiser to produce a smoother richer less fussy HD600. Some companies make colored headphones, but few do it intentionally, I guess that's why the HD650 stands out to me so much.

 

[Anaxilus]

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I guess what I mean is that they were intentionally colored by Sennheiser to produce a smoother richer less fussy HD600. Some companies make colored headphones, but few do it intentionally, I guess that's why the HD650 stands out to me so much.

What'd you think of the Orpheus?
 

 

[Maxvla]

Excellent. Very much like a HD650 in balance, but obviously far better technically. Somewhat similar to an SR-007.

 

[rhythmdevils]

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Well the HD650 is one of the most colored headphones in the industry, I don't know if you will find another like it but better.

Are you kidding?  Who cares about their "intentions", the HD650 is reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyy far from being the most colored headphone in the industry.  I don't even know what to think about this comment. 
 
Maybe you should have tweeters implanted in your head?
 
edit:  especially coming from an 007 owner.  Now i'm even more baffled. 

 

[Hennyo]

HD 650 is quite balanced. Those who think it's dark haven't chanced hearing the new version.
 
There are far more colored headphones in the industry - right and left.
 
 

 

[idletime1213]

It IS dark, no other way around it. I've owned the new version for 3 years, and it's still dark relative to the other headphones. What it isn't is "veiled".

 

[K3cT]

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The LCD-2 rev.1 would be this.

If only the LCD2 has the HD650's soundstaging ability... 
 


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It's difficult to express, mainly because I do concede the LCD-2 is "superior" in many ways. Short answer? I find the HD650 more fun and engaging.

It's difficult to suggest another headphone that is similar in sound signature as these two headphones. Even the T1 is different. I'm not a fan of the T1 though because it seems that it's a "jack of all trades but master of none"-kind of headphone. 
 
Have you considered improving your upstream gear to bring out the best from the LCD2? I honestly find the Lyr not a very good match with the LCD2 as the last thing it needs is a warm-sounding amplifier. 
 


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Are you kidding?  Who cares about their "intentions", the HD650 is reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyy far from being the most colored headphone in the industry.  I don't even know what to think about this comment. 
 
Maybe you should have tweeters implanted in your head?
 
edit:  especially coming from an 007 owner.  Now i'm even more baffled. 

Subtle. 

 

[GiacomoHoldini]

It IS dark, no other way around it. I've owned the new version for 3 years, and it's still dark relative to the other headphones. What it isn't is "veiled".

Care to explain your take on the difference between "dark" and "veiled"?

 

[MuppetFace]

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but to me, dark connotes an overall tonal quality where the treble isn't a present or emphasized. Veiled I'm less certain about, but I've seen it refer to a muffled quality akin to a lack of clarity. Though I could be mistaking "veiled" for the recent "plasticwrap effect" people are on about with regards to the LCD-3.

 

[Maxvla]

Having upgraded from the HD600 series, while still having one here to compare to, I really feel they are past their prime and many new headphones even cheaper sound far better than that line unless you have the best gear supporting it, and even then you really have to consider costs. HD598 with moderate amp vs HD650 with high end amp, the HD598 is going to hold it's own quite nicely and for a LOT less money in the combo. And for the record I've never been able to enjoy listening to the HD650, it's always been so dark and muffled that it's felt completely dead to me. That's why I went with the HD600 until I upgraded.

Now certainly there are more colored headphones out there, beats, etc, but of the 'mainstream audiophile headphones' the HD650 is certainly one of the most colored.

 

[idletime1213]

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Care to explain your take on the difference between "dark" and "veiled"?

MuppetFace explained my feelings quite nicely. I find the HD650 dark, but still clear. Does that make sense?
 
Veiled is often a derogatory term, but dark isn't necessarily. The O2 is dark-ish to my ears, but you won't see anyone calling them veiled.

 

[purrin]

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 but of the 'mainstream audiophile headphones' the HD650 is certainly one of the most colored.

Haha. I could think of at least a dozen 'mainstream audiophile headphones' more colored than the HD650... 

 But then again, I consider treble peaks and ringing one of the worst types of coloration.