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I also agree that the amp will really need to be matched to the hd800 for us to really know what it can do. Again, my pipeline will give me several options over the next 6 months or so, depending on parts, but one new option will be available (again)within a few weeks, so, I still have some questions regarding what is best.
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You can't leave it hanging without at least a bit more info on the "options" you consider interesting.
I've been listening to my HD800's since their arrival yesterday on a two board output from my four board β22. I tried a brief listen on a Bijou and a CTH, but went back pretty quick to the β22. So far my impression is that these need a very good solid state drive stage to be at their best. I'm not hearing much in the HD800 that is asking for tube "coloring" of the sound. Right now, I'm wondering what a Stacker or balanced EHHA would do with these. Or finding the parts for a Dynahi. As much as I like blowing money on amp projects, I'm wondering if there is much benefit above my β22 for driving the HD800. So what are you thinking about as likely "options" ?
The strongest positive impression I have of the HD800 so far (6 hours head time) is of their 'stat like clarity and amazing sound stage. The sound stage seems dimensionally larger than any cans I've heard and nearly as crisp as a K1000 (my winner for crisp sound staging). They seem to have a very neutral frequency response and only slightly resemble the HD6xx in that regard. I can't find much of the Senn signature hump anywhere in the lower half of the register although the bass is prominent enough and definitely extends lower than the HD6xx. My early impressions are that the HD800 is asking for plenty of flat, transparent power which equates to solid state IMO. One downside I see in the HD800 already is that less expensive OTL tube amps probably won't be "good enough" to match with the HD800. Chasing the ultimate tube match for these could get really expensive and time consuming. Generally I find revealing dynamic cans to not play well with any tube muddiness and "romantic" coloration and veil.
I'm mulling over taking a knife to the stock cord and balancing it. I was committed to leaving the included cord unmolested and making up a homebrew balanced wire but now I'm not sure I want to wait for connectors to make up a new cable.
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There will be certain group of head-fiers who perfer to live with HD650s, not just because of the price different. There will be so many of us who will keep both cans in the collection. Your ears will tell you.
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So far, my ears are telling me that my beloved HD650's are going into the closet or more likely onto Ebay. I was trying to hold the line this year on no more dynamic can purchases, but the HD800 hype and the HF2 hype totally broke(pun) my resolve. I rationalized that I wouldn't be increasing my can numbers because I'd sell off the HD650 after a comparison with the HD800 and the HF2 was destined for a deathmatch with my RS1 for residence. My HD650 seems nearly certain to be looking for a new home soon. The upcoming HF2 vs RS1 match is probably going to be a more fair fight.
If you want to happily live with HD650's, I'd recommend not doing any extended listening to HD800's. I haven't heard anything yet that makes the HD650 a useful contrasting can to the HD800. The HD800 is better in all respects and in some aspects is a lot better. I loved my balanced HD650's for the 4 or so years I've had them. I don't see much headtime with them if the HD800 is around though.