[Mad Lust Envy]

6N23P, how much is it, and what does it do compared to the 6N1P tubes? I'm not planning on rolling any more, but when my 61NP wears out (and I use my Lyr a LOOOOOOT), I may go this route out of curiosity.

 

[MrScary]

6N23P, how much is it, and what does it do compared to the 6N1P tubes? I'm not planning on rolling any more, but when my 61NP wears out (and I use my Lyr a LOOOOOOT), I may go this route out of curiosity.

They just sound better IMHO Im sure others will concur

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

That doesn't help me whatsoever. How? There are trade offs to doing certain things better. Like controlling the bass = less bass quantity, bringing out the mids = lessening either bass or treble, etc.

 

[MrScary]

That doesn't help me whatsoever. How? There are trade offs to doing certain things better. Like controlling the bass = less bass quantity, bringing out the mids = lessening either bass or treble, etc.

Sorry thats the only answer I can give you all I can say is the 6N1p's from Schiit are Schiit the 23's are what the majority of users are switching too for good reason better all around sound..

 

[jamato8]

Listening to the 1964 6N23P, nice. Since I have listened to the amp now for maybe 45 minutes I have no real opinion on tubes but the stock sound pretty good. The amp needs to burn in and I think this is some of what people are attributing initial tube sound to. After that it is all tube if it is new tubes added to the sound. This is one heavy person. I have to open it up and look around. I hope that doesn't void the warranty. :^0
 
I just popped in some RCA 6BZ7's for fun (they preceded the 6DJ8 and were used in TV's a lot and are cheap, a couple of dollars). 
 
I just got my adapter made yesterday for the 1/4 to the balanced plugs on my phones so everything worked out. I will listen to the gold grid 6N1P's but really everything needs to settle in. 
 
All the tubes and amp have to burn in but the 6N1P gold grid sound very nice with blues. 

 

[MrScary]

Listening to the 1964 6N23P, nice. Since I have listened to the amp now for maybe 45 minutes I have no real opinion on tubes but the stock sound pretty good. The amp needs to burn in and I think this is some of what people are attributing initial tube sound to. After that it is all tube if it is new tubes added to the sound. This is one heavy person. I have to open it up and look around. I hope that doesn't void the warranty. :^0
 
I just popped in some RCA 6BZ7's for fun (they preceded the 6DJ8 and were used in TV's a lot and are cheap, a couple of dollars). 
 
I just got my adapter made yesterday for the 1/4 to the balanced plugs on my phones so everything worked out. I will listen to the gold grid 6N1P's but really everything needs to settle in. 
 
All the tubes and amp have to burn in but the 6N1P gold grid sound very nice with blues. 

How do the seimens sound?

 

[jamato8]

I haven't tried the Seimens yet. I am enjoying the gold grid 6N1P, very nice. I am using the HE-6 which sound very full now. I can see that the case of the Lyr is a heat sink. This isn't uncommon but this sucker does get warm. 

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Warm? I find it that at it's hottest, I can't even pick it up, lol. I actually like the heat... it's toasty. XD

 

[MrScary]

I haven't tried the Seimens yet. I am enjoying the gold grid 6N1P, very nice. I am using the HE-6 which sound very full now. I can see that the case of the Lyr is a heat sink. This isn't uncommon but this sucker does get warm. 

Yeah especially with the 6N23P's you can fry your eggs on it

 

[sferic]

OK I'm happy with the Gold Lions, an easily obtainable, reasonably priced upgrade. But these 6N23P's of which you speak, have had some pretty impressive endorsements - can you recommend a source?

 

[MrScary]

You can get them from ebay or from cryo they cryo freeze the tubes its suppose to give a larger soundstage that which I can vouch for now that they are breaking in. I would recommend the cryo's number one you will get them quicker than from bulgaria and they cryo treat them
Just to give you my thoughts I sold my Gold Lions after I got the 23's. Hope this helps

here are some links for ya


http://www.cryoset.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=6N23p&osCsid=9b11e7202386f3e9ae28427b9ae31e3b&x=0&y=0



http://cgi.ebay.com/TESTED-MATCHED-PAIR-6N23P-NOS-70s-TUBES-6DJ8-E88CC-/350462264417?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item51992dc461

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Damn you guys for making me consider them already.... @_@

Self control.... sigh.

 

[MrScary]

Damn you guys for making me consider them already.... @_@

Self control.... sigh.

You would love the 23's MLE they are worth it and I ran the Schiit 6N1p's for quite some time

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I will get them eventually. Just not right now.

 

[jamato8]

Quote:

 Siemens
How do the seimens sound?

Very detailed, you can hear a person breathing if recorded right. The amp really needs to burn in though. Caps settle etc. but the Seimens are nice, musical, as I remember them. A slight upper mid tilt, right now, which means nothing as they are NOS and need time. I wish I had my hands on my stock of 6DJ8 types. I have everything one could want in storage.