[moriez]

   
I know what you mean 

 
Fanboys United ^^
 
Away! DT 1770. Away! TH-X00. Comin through, comin through. Hope brings elegance to even silly nasty techno tracks. So clean, so tight, so linear. This baby got so much soul it blows my mind for real.
 
Sorry if I made anyone gag lol..

 

[moriez]

And oh, after listening to aforementioned headphones it's only now become apparent how very closed in they sound. Simply uncomparable.

 

[Lorspeaker]

 

[Capt369]

Does anybody also have the alpha primes and make a comparison?

 

[andromeda1954]

Today i received my new Sennheiser 800S . I had great expectations of the new Sennheisers but was very disappointed by the sound of the Sennheiser.  Out of the box  ,comparing to my Final Pandora 6  the sound stage was rather small  and  compact and  the music was more laid back and thin  and sounded  by far not so full , dynamic and open as the Pandora's. The Pandora's involves you more to the music and gives me a more satisfying music experience . So just i realized how good the Pandora 's are.   I give the Sennheiser's 50 hours to burn in. If by then they are not open up and sound beter ,I think if that's the case they rather overpriced and I will send them back. 

 

[doctorjazz]

Haven't heard the 800s, but tryin what I've read and my experience with the 650s, what you have supplying music and power upstream really makes a huge difference with these headphones.

 

[dallan]

Today i received my new Sennheiser 800S . I had great expectations of the new Sennheisers but was very disappointed by the sound of the Sennheiser.  Out of the box  ,comparing to my Final Pandora 6  the sound stage was rather small  and  compact and  the music was more laid back and thin  and sounded  by far not so full , dynamic and open as the Pandora's. The Pandora's involves you more to the music and gives me a more satisfying music experience . So just i realized how good the Pandora 's are.   I give the Sennheiser's 50 hours to burn in. If by then they are not open up and sound beter ,I think if that's the case they rather overpriced and I will send them back. 

What amplifier are you driving the 800s with. The pandora a barely need an amp but the 800s need a fairly robust one.

 

[andromeda1954]

What amplifier are you driving the 800s with. The pandora a barely need an amp but the 800s need a fairly robust one.

I  use the ifi Audio micro idsd and the Audeze Deckard  both do not have any problem with the Sennheiser HD 800S

 

[dallan]

I  use the ifi Audio micro idsd and the Audeze Deckard  both do not have any problem with the Sennheiser HD 800S

Actually I would say those are the problem, it's not about volume. The lack soundstage and the thin sound both are due to the amplification. One is a portable amp and the other is made for low impedance headphones. They just can't drive the 800s properly, or to their potential. I have five or six amps and the one that sounds the best on the Pandora against the one that sounds the best on the 800s put the 800s in a entirely different league. I love the Pandora VI that I have but not up there with the 800s when both are properly fed.

I understand how you feel and of course when you are a acclimated to one headphone it feels right, switching is hard. Add to that the amp shortcomings and I see why you would feel let down by the 800s.

Edit-I haven't been following things, I see the '800s' is a different new headphone introduced at ces. So my comments may be with grain of salt in that my comparisons are with original hd800.

 

[feihong]

I'm using Sony pha-2 with my pandora hope vi and really enjoy it. Do you think i can't get better from my headphone with à desktop setup?

 

[Lorspeaker]

what more do u want to hear out of your current "sound"? 
i think the pandora does quite well out of humble setups,
but there will be improvements in clarity, separtation, depth etc but in decreasing return$$.
 
i am listening to youtube musical vids on the pandora straight off my McAIr..
and was enjoying it until i saw your post,
 decided to plug in my Audiogd dac amp,,,
there is an immediate improvement in clarity space depth.. definitely CLEARer.
but is it worth $600 more...u have to decide
 
anyway....do pick up a desktop dac/amp if u can spare the cash
your other/future cans will benefit too.
 
 
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edit...your sony is a $500 AMP...? what dac are u using now..
maybe u should invest in a "better" dac? 

 

[andromeda1954]

Actually I would say those are the problem, it's not about volume. The lack soundstage and the thin sound both are due to the amplification. One is a portable amp and the other is made for low impedance headphones. They just can't drive the 800s properly, or to their potential. I have five or six amps and the one that sounds the best on the Pandora against the one that sounds the best on the 800s put the 800s in a entirely different league. I love the Pandora VI that I have but not up there with the 800s when both are properly fed.

I understand how you feel and of course when you are a acclimated to one headphone it feels right, switching is hard. Add to that the amp shortcomings and I see why you would feel let down by the 800s.

Edit-I haven't been following things, I see the '800s' is a different new headphone introduced at ces. So my comments may be with grain of salt in that my comparisons are with original hd800.

What amp/dac do you recommend?

 

[feihong]

The Sony pha-2 is not only à amps but a dac/amp. Well i'm just curious that my pandora hope vi can sound better. As i am now, i'm really enjoy the sound. 600€ more ? This is à THE good question and for now for me it's no, but i'm curious...

 

[Lorspeaker]

ya, save the $$,  just add some cotton gauze and angle your drivers if it is possible.
 

 

[andromeda1954]

Actually I would say those are the problem, it's not about volume. The lack soundstage and the thin sound both are due to the amplification. One is a portable amp and the other is made for low impedance headphones. They just can't drive the 800s properly, or to their potential. I have five or six amps and the one that sounds the best on the Pandora against the one that sounds the best on the 800s put the 800s in a entirely different league. I love the Pandora VI that I have but not up there with the 800s when both are properly fed.

I understand how you feel and of course when you are a acclimated to one headphone it feels right, switching is hard. Add to that the amp shortcomings and I see why you would feel let down by the 800s.

Edit-I haven't been following things, I see the '800s' is a different new headphone introduced at ces. So my comments may be with grain of salt in that my comparisons are with original hd800.[/quot
I noticed that there are guite a few people here on this forum that use the Ifi Audio IDSD for amping the HD 800 . They are in regular satisfied about the sound result . Of course there are better (far more expensive ) amps that do a better
Job. According to my supplier are both amps a decent match for the HD 800 but there are better . The Ifi audio IDSD is suitable for amping Hp up to 600 ohm.and the Audeze is a wonderful amp/dac to drive the Pandora 6.