[godluvsxs]

Guys, MOON is out! Go order!

 

[bundee1]

can someone describe/ summarize the sound characteristics of the stock dac with stock opamps? (strengths and weakness, grainy smooth, sweet, etched , bassy etc) much appreciated.

 

[dario]

but the only difference between sun v1 and sun v2 is the capacitor?

 

[dario]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundee1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif can someone describe/ summarize the sound characteristics of the stock dac with stock opamps? (strengths and weakness, grainy smooth, sweet, etched , bassy etc) much appreciated.

I think you can refer to first post review...

 

[taso89]

^

No, all the audio-gd OPA's now have the capacitor addon, the Sun must have some more significant changes. It'd be interesting if someone wrote up a comparison between the old Sun and new Sun to see if some of the prevailing issues with the Sun have been addressed.

 

[dario]

the problem is that with all opa-shipment-mod-upgrade and ect, the zero would cost as much as more powerful product...

Edit:
Sun V1
http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/diy/OPA/OPA-S.GIF
Sun V2
http://www.audio-gd.com/enweb/pro/di...es/SUN(V2).gif

Can anyone explain what changes?


Technical spec:
Earth
THD Less than 0.0005% (1KHz), voltage: ± 9 TO ± 25V, open-loop gain: 35 DB, current work: About 28 MA (single-Wan Fang), about 56 MA (two-Wan Fang).
Moon
THD Less than 0.0008% (1KHz), voltage: ± 9 TO ± 25V, open-loop gain: 33 DB, current work: About 28 MA (single-Wan Fang), about 56 MA (two-Wan Fang).
Sun (v2 and v1 fon now have some spec)
THD Less than 0.0003% (1KHz), voltage: ± 9 TO ± 25V, open-loop gain: 42 DB, current work: About 22 MA (single-Wan Fang), about 44 MA (two-Wan Fang).

 

[bundee1]

I need to know what its like in a speaker based system.

 

[AudioPhewl]

Quote:

Originally Posted by dario /img/forum/go_quote.gif Can anyone explain what changes?

The links between the 4 transistors have been made. The outputs of J74 were tied to ground, from initial impressions.

I don't find the schematic particularly easy to follow, but that is the only difference I've been able to see.

~Phewl

 

[LeBuLLeT]

Is anyone going to buy the new Moon and Sun?

 

[bundee1]

anyone want to respond as to how the stock dac sounds like in a speaker system? the first review only mentions the sound through headphones and since there are different parts in the signal it might sound different.

 

[katanka]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundee1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif anyone want to respond as to how the stock dac sounds like in a speaker system? the first review only mentions the sound through headphones and since there are different parts in the signal it might sound different.

I have my zero hooked up to a yulong t-amp and some Monitor Audio bookshelf speakers, and it sounds very good to me.

 

[VanQuish]

How does the zero compare to E-MU 0404?

 

[sennsay]

Quote:

Originally Posted by dario /img/forum/go_quote.gif the problem is that with all opa-shipment-mod-upgrade and ect, the zero would cost as much as more powerful product... Edit: Sun V1 http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/diy/OPA/OPA-S.GIF Sun V2 http://www.audio-gd.com/enweb/pro/di...es/SUN(V2).gif Can anyone explain what changes? Technical spec: Earth THD Less than 0.0005% (1KHz), voltage: ± 9 TO ± 25V, open-loop gain: 35 DB, current work: About 28 MA (single-Wan Fang), about 56 MA (two-Wan Fang). Moon THD Less than 0.0008% (1KHz), voltage: ± 9 TO ± 25V, open-loop gain: 33 DB, current work: About 28 MA (single-Wan Fang), about 56 MA (two-Wan Fang). Sun (v2 and v1 fon now have some spec) THD Less than 0.0003% (1KHz), voltage: ± 9 TO ± 25V, open-loop gain: 42 DB, current work: About 22 MA (single-Wan Fang), about 44 MA (two-Wan Fang).

Hi Dario, all I can see that's changed is the input FETs have resistor changes from 1000 ohms to 2200 ohms across them and the voltage recommendation has changed accordingly from 9-25V to 12-20V. That's it, the input FETs are loaded differently. Oh, and there's less current draw. They might run a bit cooler and actually, so might the LT1364s downstream. Be interesting to see how they sound, eh?

 

[Nike T]

Hey guys, sorry for being ignorant, but what are these moon sun and earth things, I haven't been following this thread at all and I'm thinking of getting a zero. Is there anything else important that I missed through the thread?

 

[ScottieB]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nike T /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hey guys, sorry for being ignorant, but what are these moon sun and earth things, I haven't been following this thread at all and I'm thinking of getting a zero. Is there anything else important that I missed through the thread?

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