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Oh you really had the SE5 as well? What didn't you like about them?
Hi Lee, my experiences of the SE-5 are already well-documented within this very thread.
I'm not 'bashing' the SE-5 by any means, but, as I have described earlier in this thread, I do feel quite certain that there is some as-yet-not-identified variable that seems to be leading to some pairs of SE-5s not sounding as stellar as most pairs evidently do. Whether it's some tiny phase alignment issue or some other factor, I don't know, but some people find they sound incredible whilst others (myself included) find them very significantly dark, uneven in freq response, and even, dare I say it, a little claustrophobic-sounding. And before anyone assumes this is just a matter of 'taste', or 'poor source' or high output impedance,
NO. IMO, this is not due to any of those factors. There is something actually 'not right' about the sound, in this small number of cases.
Now, again, I want to stress that I recognise that only a small number of people have found them problematic, so I'm in no way implying that they are a poor product;
far from it.
I just think they are one of the most complex CIEM designs on the market and that the complexity means there are potentially more variables at play which may influence, for better
or worse, how each pair of SE-5s sound. Just as with fullsize loudspeakers (perhaps even
more so), the
complete science is
not yet understood.
The fact that I have posted my less-than-stellar experiences is not because I have an axe to grind. Not at all. Grzegorz treated me very well and was professional all the way. No, the reason I have posted my experiences is simply out of honesty and openness. What is,
is, and a community in denial is a neurotic, unhealthy community that does not truly serve the needs of its members. Grzegorz' products have the quality to withstand the experiences and reports of those of us who didn't find nirvana in them, and prospective customers have a right to a rounded viewpoint, formed from hearing both sides. In fact, I believe that
benefits the prospective customer
and the vendor, and the community at large
(speaking of which, for anyone who'd like to see a current example of this, in action, stop by the X3 / X5 threads and see how James (head of Fiio) is openly discussing pros, cons, and concerns of his customers; it's an object lesson in how to conduct good business). It should be very obvious to the more seasoned head-fiers, when they read a thread that is
entirely positive, that experience should tell them alarm bells should probably be ringing in their mind.
No product is entirely perfect, and threads that pretend otherwise undermine the credibility of the vendor and the community. There is room for hearing all experiences, good and bad.
Speaking generally, I can attest to the superb build quality of the SE-5, and to Grzegorz' truly exemplary customer service, ethos, and competence.
If anyone is considering buying an SE-5 but is concerned about the experiences of the minority, I would say that
all CIEMs carry some risk of dissatisfaction, as most of us CIEM-ers can testify. The SE-5 is a top quality product, there is a very good probability that your prospective pair will sound every bit as amazing as Joe's apparently do, and Grzegorz is a pleasure to do business with.
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