[weibby]

I agree I have the M6, trebles were non existent as the bass was too boomy.
Bleeds into the mids and highs, at times it was quite bad that I stop listening to it because all the details were lost.

Just a mash up of sound.

 

[Spud of Doom]

Can anybody do a direct comparison of RE0 vs Eterna? Both of these IEMs have very promising reviews and I'm not entirely sure which way to go.

 

[marcello]

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Originally Posted by Spud of Doom /img/forum/go_quote.gif Can anybody do a direct comparison of RE0 vs Eterna? Both of these IEMs have very promising reviews and I'm not entirely sure which way to go.

If you read the whole looong thread, you will realise, RE0 is about the accuracy and higher extension of highs and low on bass(something like cheap Ety) while Eterna is 110 percent dedicated to fun, not so accurate, but still clean and bass is like in car system, very enjoyable. About the accuracy, Eterna is not so accurate, but still better than other models in that price category.

fun&bass=eterna
analytical sound=RE0

also notice, RE0 sounds better with an amp, while Eterna is good as is.

Anyway, I just wanted to link to this thread about Fischer Audio, DBA-02 is discussed here and it is an interesting one.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f103/r...a-02-a-484569/

 

[Spud of Doom]

Yeah that's the impression I've gathered. Problem is, I don't know what an analytical sound is even like. Every hifi store I've seen in my country doesn't let you audition headphones. And I've never even seen any that stock any of; Shure, Audio Technica, BeyerDynamic, Grado, Etymotics, Koss, non low-end Sony, Ultrasone or basically any other brand.
We only have access to Sennheiser and UE. Skullcandy doesn't count.
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Luckily, I recently moved to another town and there's an audio store here that stocks AKG and Denon and lets you audition. I guess what I'm getting at is what's a low-to-mid range AKG or Denon headphone with an "analytical" signature? I've been told Denon's aren't analytical at all, so I guess I need to hear something from AKG?

 

[marcello]

analytical signature means, that you hear more details, that you had never before, while warm sounding means some details are lost, but it could be more musical. You must hear it, get some experiences to know what I mean, sorry, buddy.

Try all the expensive phones what they have, it doesn't matter if Denon or AKG, AKG are in general more detailed, but I don't know the situation in lower models

I can see 2 problems in this testing before buying: normal stores doesn't even know the difference between sound of stock earbuds and better one. They just tell you that which are better. In higher priced models the situation is different. It's the taste of listener and some models need an amp to drive.

I was in a store where they had HD595 and some other headphone, but they played it from some ****ty CD player.

Second problem is in IEMs/hygiene: IEM is like a toothbrush, I won't let others to stick it in their ears

only if they change the tips

in customs it counts twice, because it can fit only for one person.

 

[weibby]

RE0 needs amp to scale nicely, i have to put full volume outta fuze and yet it still lacks dynamics.

 

[Spud of Doom]

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Originally Posted by marcello /img/forum/go_quote.gif Try all the expensive phones what they have, it doesn't matter if Denon or AKG, AKG are in general more detailed, but I don't know the situation in lower models I can see 2 problems in this testing before buying: normal stores doesn't even know the difference between sound of stock earbuds and better one. They just tell you that which are better. In higher priced models the situation is different. It's the taste of listener and some models need an amp to drive. I was in a store where they had HD595 and some other headphone, but they played it from some ****ty CD player. Second problem is in IEMs/hygiene: IEM is like a toothbrush, I won't let others to stick it in their ears only if they change the tips in customs it counts twice, because it can fit only for one person.

The local store here is actually really good. They've got AKG 702 and Denon D5000 I believe, and they can get the entire product range. Salesman is quite good as well so I might go and ask him for some demonstration later this week. They also run the demo units from sources well above what I can afford, so I should be able to get a good idea of what's going on. I've heard the D5000 before but have been told that Denon's signature is more warm and full-bass than analytical and neutral.

 

[ethan961]

Those K702s are analytical. Try them.

 

[Nachash]

so... there is some available webshop for eternas?

 

[Anaxilus]

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Originally Posted by marcello /img/forum/go_quote.gif analytical signature means, that you hear more details, that you had never before, while warm sounding means some details are lost, but it could be more musical. You must hear it, get some experiences to know what I mean, sorry, buddy.

I disagree slightly that warm=lost detail. What you are referring to is veiled IMO. You can definitely have a warm phone just as detailed as a cold one.

 

[marcello]

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Originally Posted by Nachash /img/forum/go_quote.gif so... there is some available webshop for eternas?

Google some, there are links from the main page of fischer audio


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Originally Posted by Anaxilus /img/forum/go_quote.gif I disagree slightly that warm=lost detail. What you are referring to is veiled IMO. You can definitely have a warm phone just as detailed as a cold one.

You're right. W3 are warm, still detailed. warm/cold is not the same category like detailed/less detailed.

 

[Spud of Doom]

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Originally Posted by Nachash /img/forum/go_quote.gif so... there is some available webshop for eternas?

Bugden audio (Canada and USA), Treoo (Singapore) and some other store in Northern Europe. Links on Fischer Audio GmbH » www.fischeraudio.com

 

[chinesekiwi]

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Originally Posted by marcello /img/forum/go_quote.gif Second problem is in IEMs/hygiene: IEM is like a toothbrush, I won't let others to stick it in their ears only if they change the tips

Flawed comparison. Plaque off toothbrushes is bacteria. Earwax is not bacteria-based like plaque and tbh, the hygiene concerns over earwax is overemphasised. There's far more bacteria on your keyboard atm than there will ever be in your ears.

 

[chinesekiwi]

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Originally Posted by Anaxilus /img/forum/go_quote.gif I disagree slightly that warm=lost detail. What you are referring to is veiled IMO. You can definitely have a warm phone just as detailed as a cold one.

Veiled is very different tbh but yes, you can have a warm sounding headphone be just as detailed as a cold sounding one.

 

[marcello]

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi /img/forum/go_quote.gif Flawed comparison. Plaque off toothbrushes is bacteria. Earwax is not bacteria-based like plaque and tbh, the hygiene concerns over earwax is overemphasised. There's far more bacteria on your keyboard atm than there will ever be in your ears.

It's not about bacteria. Will you put in your ear an IEM that put 50 other people before you don't know without any cleaning? I won't. Maybe it's just me, but it's disgusting.

Why otherwise shops don't provide option to try IEMs? I don't know one place near me, that does that.