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yes, and they'll look like plastic too.
but yeah how come the grado spikes like mad between 500-10k?
it was posted elsewhere, but yeah how come the grado spikes like mad between 500-10k? And what's wrong with having a mid-upper bass peak?
I think that when people say the P5 lacks top end and sounds rolled off, they are actually missing the grain and other treble nasties that are commonplace in other headphones. If something is bright to most people and you don't hear it, it is possible you have hearing problems. But when you hear correct top end balance, proper timbre on violins, horns, percussion etc., how does one explain that? Is it possible that the opposite is true, that some find the P5 rolled off on top because they are used to bright headphones and don't realize it?
I am hearing the lack of expanded soundstage and compartmentalizing of images, but only when comparing to large headphones that place the driver away from the ear. To my ears, the P5 sounds like good high-end loudspeakers, correctly placed in a small listening/demo room. I know I will never convince anybody on the P5, but why am I suddenly content and not switching headphones all the time?
Tried these at work today, a colleague bought them.
I told him they were very good....
They are crap,
That simple, for the money they are crap.
I wouldnt buy them if they were £50.
I think that when people say the P5 lacks top end and sounds rolled off, they are actually missing the grain and other treble nasties that are commonplace in other headphones. If something is bright to most people and you don't hear it, it is possible you have hearing problems. But when you hear correct top end balance, proper timbre on violins, horns, percussion etc., how does one explain that? Is it possible that the opposite is true, that some find the P5 rolled off on top because they are used to bright headphones and don't realize it?
I am hearing the lack of expanded soundstage and compartmentalizing of images, but only when comparing to large headphones that place the driver away from the ear. To my ears, the P5 sounds like good high-end loudspeakers, correctly placed in a small listening/demo room. I know I will never convince anybody on the P5, but why am I suddenly content and not switching headphones all the time?
I agree with everything you say in this post about people being accustomed to bright headphones and thinking that warm and neutral headphones are "rolled off". But just to be clear, my K240 sextetts have rolled off treble, and I think they are magical, they walk all over the P5. Rolled off treble is not what made me dislike the P5.
So I had a chance to listen to these today and I was not impressed. Construction wise and comfort, they are certainly top notch. But once the music started it was downhill. I thought they were too bassy with recessed mids and just plain muddy (and rolled off treble). For the price, I think one can do better. Too bad, I had high hopes.
seriously MacedonianHero, "you don't know what you're hearing"