Ortofon e-Q7 Impressions Thread

[Anaxilus]

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Originally Posted by Noir7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif wow i've seen a lot of impression between single to multiple BA and comparison that even a single BA can do the multiple BA jobs (not outdone or superior in any means). still its bugging me its is really true that this can be happen? or its just a matter of personal taste that the sound signature is suitable to the user?

EQ7/GR8 is a moving armature design where an armature attached to a diaphragm attempts to move air similar to a dynamic driver which adds that sense of 'body' and coherency w/o needing multiple drivers and crossovers.

Don't get hung up on one technology or more=better. When's the last time you saw BA's in a home theater or car audio set up?

 

[Pianist]

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Originally Posted by rawrster /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well I bet you will probably sell them soon then. The CK10 definitely have more bass than the RE0. Although I don't find the bass that much less on the CK10 compared to the e-Q7.

If it does, than CK10 can be called bass heavy. RE0 has as much bass as the e-Q7 to my ears and even more with some tips. Or do you just mean sub bass? In that case, yep, I guess RE0 is a tad rolled off in those lowest registers.

 

[Pianist]

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Originally Posted by EraserXIV /img/forum/go_quote.gif the westone 3s are indeed a very interesting pair of IEMs. the mid bass hump on it is so engaging it definitely has to be the funnest IEM i've ever listened to. after listening to e-q7s though the mids do seem a bit recessed in comparison (but that's because the e-q7 have very forward mids). i also like the treble on the e-q7 better, seems brighter and crisper. although the e-q7 has less bass (in comparison to the W3 bass monsters), i think it's more than adequate and has a nice impact.

lol Really? I found exactly the opposite. It was so annoying and distracting to my ears. Couldn't stand it.

Regarding treble on the e-Q7 - I feel that it's their weakest spot. I thought Westone 3 and most other high-end IEMs I tried have better treble. I even prefer SE530 highs, because it is more delicate and refined. e-Q7 is not bad, but a little rough/grainy in the treble to my ears, which with some music is almost a deal breaker for me. But I still keep the e-Q7 because their magical bass and mid performance just keeps me coming back to them.

 

[Bennyboy71]

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Originally Posted by Pianist /img/forum/go_quote.gif lol Really? I found exactly the opposite. It was so annoying and distracting to my ears. Couldn't stand it. Regarding treble on the e-Q7 - I feel that it's their weakest spot. I thought Westone 3 and most other high-end IEMs I tried have better treble. I even prefer SE530 highs, because it is more delicate and refined. e-Q7 is not bad, but a little rough/grainy in the treble to my ears, which with some music is almost a deal breaker for me. But I still keep the e-Q7 because their magical bass and mid performance just keeps me coming back to them.

Are you amping your Ortos?

 

[rawrster]

I have the e-Q7 similar for the reasons Pianist has except more for the mids. Although it is not my favorite out of the bass, treble and mids area it is nice to have once in a while. I do like the bass and the treble better on the CK10 but mids is definitely better on the e-Q7 imo and that's a good enough reason to have it.

 

[EraserXIV]

i find the westone 3 to be veiled in the mids and treble in comparison with the e-q7. although the e-q7 is very mid-centric and the treble may take the backstage due to this, if you listen closely it still has nice extension and sparkle IMO.

 

[rawrster]

Well we definitely hear them differently then Eraser. I find there is a slight rolloff on the e-Q7 treble but not too badly. Their extension isn't bad but nothing compared to my CK10.

 

[Pianist]

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Originally Posted by Bennyboy71 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Are you amping your Ortos?

Sorry, I was definitely too harsh on the Ortos there. The problem is that I also have my RE0 and keeping on ABing the two and RE0 just has better treble. Yep, the Ortos improve with an amp. When amped, I don't really feel like the treble is rough anymore - it is clear and detailed although still not quite up there with my RE0 in extension and refinement. The high range still lacks some delicacy though - it may be that bump in the low treble (5-6 kHz), that's giving me this impression. I still think Westone 3, Triple.fi and RE0 have better treble than e-Q7, but the difference is indeed not very significant when the e-Q7 is amped and if you mainly focus on bass and mids when listening, you may not even notice.

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Originally Posted by EraserXIV /img/forum/go_quote.gif i find the westone 3 to be veiled in the mids and treble in comparison with the e-q7. although the e-q7 is very mid-centric and the treble may take the backstage due to this, if you listen closely it still has nice extension and sparkle IMO.

That indicates fit issues. Westone 3 is known for crappy fit with the stock tips. You need to get custom tips for them to hear what they are really capable of.

 

[EraserXIV]

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Originally Posted by rawrster /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well we definitely hear them differently then Eraser. I find there is a slight rolloff on the e-Q7 treble but not too badly. Their extension isn't bad but nothing compared to my CK10.

i was referring to the e-q7 in comparison with the westone 3. the ck10 wins against the e-q7 in treble extension, sparkle, forwardness, hands down.

 

[EraserXIV]

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Originally Posted by Pianist /img/forum/go_quote.gif That indicates fit issues. Westone 3 is known for crappy fit with the stock tips. You need to get custom tips for them to hear what they are really capable of.

very likely. i was having problems finding the right tip to use.

 

[ALBPM]

I just tried out some triple flange tips I got on ebay on my e-Q7s. It was a no go for me. Reduced the bass impact and mids and highs were not tolerable at all.

So back to the Sony Hybrids.....

The Shure triple flanges work great on the W3s. They tighten up the Bass and remove any hint of sibilance. They make it feel like the W3s are hard wired to my brain.....

 

[rawrster]

I think their nozzle is too short for triple flanges. I've been using my sound magic double flanges (which is pretty much the same as the ones on ebay that I also bought) and they work out the best so far. The hybrids makes the stage a bit smaller but then again that's to be expected.

 

[ALBPM]

Thanks rawrster!!
I just ordered some Sennheiser Double Flange tips on ebay.

Double Flange Earbuds for Sennheiser CX 400-II 500 550 - eBay (item 200465226099 end time May-25-10 10:05:25 PDT)

 

[rawrster]

I think mine were the other double flange they have but lots of people have had success with those double flange tips as well. Joe mentioned those tips being the best for him somewhere but I already like what I hear from my tips and didn't find it worth it to spend more money on all these tips for just 1 iem.

 

[ericp10]

Hello fellas. I'm am currently listening to the Orto with the large silicon FX700 tips. I am listening through the uDAC out of the Mac's iTunes. To my surprise these tips really open up and extend the treble of the e-Q7 without taking away from the bass or shutting down the mids. The core is quite thick and the tips have a wide opening. I won't say it's my favorite yet, still loving the large Sony hybrid silicon, but it's growing on me fast. Doing my test tracks and so far so good with more treble. I'll give you a definitive analysis in a few days.