Oriolus Hybrid IEM

Oct 17, 2018 at 10:35 AM Post #1,366 of 1,871
I can't see why you wouldn't be happy with it. It offers a lot for in this hobby a little money. I've had Sony ex1000 EE Bravado and Campfire Andromeda twice and i'm happy with the Finschi. Not saying it's better than or equal to Andromeda in any way! Andromeda fit in my right ear just didn't work. I'm looking forward to Campfires new release at the end of the month and hopefully a better fit. If you want to skip all of this trying out different IEMs grab the Andromeda and a Sony 300 ZX and delete your account and don't look back

Haha thanks. Andros man that's the dream
 
Oct 21, 2018 at 10:52 AM Post #1,368 of 1,871
Just wondering if there is something that's an direct upgrade to the finschi ? I like the forward airy mid range, and the strong impactful DD bass. Maybe tthe forsteni or mkii ? Or something else?
IDK any hybrid that could be a direct upgrade, but personally I like the EE Vantage for its bass, and lower-midrange. It may not be as clear, and forward in the mids, but the bass quality I felt was better-defined, tighter, and higher (It has two DD drivers). You'll lose the sweet upper-midrange sound that Finschi has though. That's the price/sacrifice. But if you want an overall higher-resolution neutral sound without losing too much bass, I'd recommend the Oriolus Mellianus. And for the best midrange/vocal sound, (my favourite) the EE Zeus.
 
Oct 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM Post #1,369 of 1,871
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Just stumbled on this the other day, they're Mellianus custom fit. Don't know whether they're made by Oriolus or a 3rd party, or is it legit.
Anyway here's the original link in Japanese, you should check it out:
https://www.phileweb.com/news/photo/d-av/453/45310/cusom_thumb.jpg
It's legit in Japan. You can buy them from Fujiya-Avic (AFAIK). https://fujiya-avic.jp/products/detail168705.html
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 12:58 AM Post #1,371 of 1,871
Hi,

Is there any way visually to see if the Mk2 cable is the PW5 or the Chinese stock cable?
PW5 cable has PW logo on the 3.5mm jack and the 2pin termination are in black.

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Nov 5, 2018 at 1:21 AM Post #1,372 of 1,871
Thanks! I bought a refurbished Oriolus MK2 from someone. He said it had new drivers and shells, using stock cable.

I find the treble brighter and mids grainier than what I recalled auditioning in the shop. There is a hint of sibilance with female vocals. I think the shop was using PW No.5 cable. Do you guys think it is due to lack of burn-in, or the PW cable? If it's the cable I really need to go buy it because I loved the smooth lush mids when I auditioned the MK2.
 
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Nov 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM Post #1,373 of 1,871
Thanks! I bought a refurbished Oriolus MK2 from someone. He said it had new drivers and shells, using stock cable.

I find the treble brighter and mids grainier than what I recalled auditioning in the shop. There is a hint of sibilance with female vocals. I think the shop was using PW No.5 cable. Do you guys think it is due to lack of burn-in, or the PW cable? If it's the cable I really need to go buy it because I loved the smooth lush mids when I auditioned the MK2.

The No.5 cable definitely warms up the sound. Your source should make a noticeable difference too. I moved away from the No.5 because my source made the combination too warm, so it all depends on what you're using.
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 10:45 AM Post #1,375 of 1,871
The No.5 cable definitely warms up the sound. Your source should make a noticeable difference too. I moved away from the No.5 because my source made the combination too warm, so it all depends on what you're using.

Yeah, I felt that the PW.05 "coated" the sound with an amount of warmth that makes it a bit sluggish for my taste. Going back to the Penon replacement cable, it sounded a lot more open. I'm debating now whether I should get an Ares II.

then I'll retire by purchasing an HD660S. I can't justify spending more beyond than the Andromeda 's price tag when you can get a decent headphone that nails great timbre and a natural feel.
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 12:03 PM Post #1,376 of 1,871
I wanted to buy a 4.4 balanced No:5 cable for my zx300. Wonder if it's a good combo?
I haven't heard the ZX300, but if you find the Oriolus dry or bright, it can help add warmth to the sound.

Yeah, I felt that the PW.05 "coated" the sound with an amount of warmth that makes it a bit sluggish for my taste. Going back to the Penon replacement cable, it sounded a lot more open. I'm debating now whether I should get an Ares II.

then I'll retire by purchasing an HD660S. I can't justify spending more beyond than the Andromeda 's price tag when you can get a decent headphone that nails great timbre and a natural feel.
I liked it with the Ares II+, but I heard that is thicker sounding in the mids than the normal Ares II.

I'm considering the PW Audio Helix 8-wire cable. Seems like a good alternative to the Ares II 8-wire variant, which is apparently thinner sounding than it's 4-wire sibling.

From the PW Audio Tour thread:
  • NEW - Helix (8-wire) - 2pin/MMCX/4.4mm balanced ($469SGD)
    An evolution of the No.5. The Helix Initial shares the same wire configuration as the No.5, but in 28AWG and built into an 8-wire cable to offer a sound similar to the No.5 8-wire in a more compact form factor
 
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Nov 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM Post #1,377 of 1,871
I haven't heard the ZX300, but if you find the Oriolus dry or bright, it can help add warmth to the sound.


I liked it with the Ares II+, but I heard that is thicker sounding in the mids than the normal Ares II.

I'm considering the PW Audio Helix 8-wire cable. Seems like a good alternative to the Ares II 8-wire variant, which is apparently thinner sounding than it's 4-wire sibling.

From the PW Audio Tour thread:

I've read a couple of others that had preferred the Ares II. I think there's a nice comparison made by @flinkenick between the pw.n05 and the ares II over the headphonelist webpage (though he's not using the Oriolus as baseline iem). Hm, I was tempted in saving up for an erosII cable but the latest senheiser basically erased all my plans!
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 9:27 PM Post #1,378 of 1,871
I've read a couple of others that had preferred the Ares II. I think there's a nice comparison made by @flinkenick between the pw.n05 and the ares II over the headphonelist webpage (though he's not using the Oriolus as baseline iem). Hm, I was tempted in saving up for an erosII cable but the latest senheiser basically erased all my plans!
I have the MKII version of the cable (not reborn) and was deciding if I should get the PW Audio.. You comment made sense, MKII is already bit warmish sounding adding the PW Audio will just give too much warm... I'll stick to stock cable (seems to sound best even comparing with hansound redcore) https://penonaudio.com/oriolus-mk2-iem-cable.html
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 11:29 PM Post #1,379 of 1,871
using plussound 'ready made' 28awg copper exo on the MK2 - compared to the PW5 I had (and sold), it brightened things up a bit without a trace of that silver sound. Sub bass is still very present. Burn in seemed to take next to no time at all IIRC.

But I have to say, there was something magical about the no5 I miss. It was very smooth/liquid. The plussound 28awg is a bit 'grainier' in the upper mids, lower treble - but the overall tonal balance is more to my enjoyment now. Also, upper treble is more sparkly (a hint more).

If you keep the pw5, you can get a little more sparkle up near 10-12khz if you use campfire audio marshmallow tips. Make sure your output impedance is 2 ohms or less - upper treble takes a 2.5-3db dive with 10 ohms OI, yet the bass is largely unaffected with the higher OI. Kinda weird, but I validated this with readily available varying impedance FR graphs of the mk2 - jives with what I'm hearing.
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 2:09 AM Post #1,380 of 1,871
Thanks for the useful feedback everyone.
Also, I've been using the 1$ foams sold Penon audio, which in my experience, really showcases the details in mids as it opens up the sound a lot.
It feels less congested, so the musical pace isn't bogged down. The only small sacrifice I made was lose that crazy subbass canon when I'm not using triple flanges.

Foams - open airy diffuse atmosphere
Triple flange - layered in a holographic way, but does have the same coherent presentation as foams in general BUT DAT BASS! Ouuf...
 

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