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Nov 29, 2017 at 4:06 AM Post #15,211 of 16,375
Truth is, the headphone sockets of Onkyo DP X1 fail no matter how carefully you use it, all it takes is plugging in the headphones plug.
/rant
Oh man.. I just got this DAP for 5 days. So that's the reason there are so many guys trying to sell it real cheap over here. I dont like FiiO X7 either. The sound and the software tho.. So many bugs and so many bass.
I just can't believe that there is no way an expensive device like this could be broken so easily
 
Nov 29, 2017 at 10:39 AM Post #15,212 of 16,375
I bought a DP-X1 at the end of last Summer, just before the DP-X1A was announced.
So, what I have is now called a DP-X1B (engraved label says X1), and it has the tight bezel holes around the audio jacks.
It gets used when it's either sitting on my desk at work, on the table at lunch / dinner, or on my desk at home.
In other words - I don't stick it in my pocket with an earphone cable connected, which could put a lot of torque / stress on the jacks.
So far, the audio jacks haven't given me any problems.
So what you are saying that as long as we do not use a portable digital player as a portable digital player we are OK. Good to know.
 
Nov 29, 2017 at 11:05 AM Post #15,213 of 16,375
Yes, it seems no one 'doesn't even bother' to give you an answer, even though it is a duty and obligation of Headfi members to do so. On behalf of everyone, I apologize, and I'm hopeful that in future we will serve you better!

As for headphone jacks, and copper rings, I don't see any difference in headphones socket failure rate, and correlation in production batch, the latest X1A excluded. My player is late 2016, it has snug copper sleeves surrounding the sockets, the heaphone plugs sit in both sockets snugly, they are not loose, there is no more play than any player or phone I've used.

What failed in my DP X1 is the 3.5mm output socket, one channel went silent, and remains silent. I have never NEVER put the DP X1 in pants pocket, I was well aware how easily the sockets fail, before I bought it I had read tons of socket failure reports. Still I bought it, thinking sockets won't fail, as long as I don't carry it in pocket with headphone plugged in. Well, I was wrong, sockets fail all by themselves, you just have to use the player, which means you will have to plug in headphones. And that is all it takes to damage the sockets.

When using the player outside I have it in belt pouch, there is zero stress on the socket from headphone plug, and the cable I use is factory Shure SE846 cable, a very soft cable. The headphone plug is outside the pouch, standing free, not touching to pouch, the belt, nor my pants, shirts or any body part. It's simply pluged in.

Truth is, the headphone sockets of Onkyo DP X1 fail no matter how carefully you use it, all it takes is plugging in the headphones plug.

I have emailed Onkyo Japan and Onkyo USA, asking them to sell me the LCD (no reply), because in order to get to sockets, LCD needs to remove, and player dismantled. I have replaced several smart phone LCDs, my own Sony Z5 tha I dropped, and cracked the screen, and few friend's phone screens. it is not a difficult job. But every time I've removed the cracked LCD, the removal damages it further no matter how long you use the heat gun to soften the screen glue, no matter how gently I try to lift the screen. So I know there is almost no chance I can get the LCD off the unit without cracking it. All I need is to buy a new Onkyo LCD, but this seems impossible. How can such a huge corporation totally ignore requests to repair, or just sell spare parts? How do they get away with it?

DP X1 is defective design, if any major phone manufacturer had such failure rate of any of their models, there would be a very swift recall. How many Galaxy Note 7 battaries self destructed before Samsung recalled it, and refunded full price to every single customer? I think it was 6 failed units of Galaxy Note.

I wouldn't sweat around this topic if the DP X1 wasn't such an amazing sounding DAP, when it functions. Now I need a new DAP, but don't know what to buy, I don't consider any Astell for ethical reasons. So that leaves me with what? Fiio X7? Not as good, unfortunately, and it's hard to take a step back in sound quality after having DP X1.

/rant
DX200
 
Nov 29, 2017 at 8:52 PM Post #15,215 of 16,375
Oh man.. I just got this DAP for 5 days. So that's the reason there are so many guys trying to sell it real cheap over here. I dont like FiiO X7 either. The sound and the software tho.. So many bugs and so many bass.
I just can't believe that there is no way an expensive device like this could be broken so easily
Enjoy it while you have it. I and a lot of others have had this for a long time and no issues yet.
 
Nov 29, 2017 at 11:42 PM Post #15,218 of 16,375
I was planning to get DX-200 in a couple months ago but then an experienced Headfier told me not to get it because it gets unexpectedly hot when charging. He then told me to buy the A&K Kann..,
Oh.. Every electronic devices from Chinese manufacturer seems to get real hot when it comes to charging or playing games. I got 2 xiaomi phones and they both run hot like hell..
That AK seems good tho.. :beerchug:
 
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Nov 30, 2017 at 3:38 AM Post #15,219 of 16,375
After some testing, I found the Dp-X1 is very unforgiving. Any artifacts/errors in recording will smash you clearly in the face.
Do you have any idea to reduce this unwanted issue, my K10 is very sensitive to that :(
 
Nov 30, 2017 at 3:57 AM Post #15,220 of 16,375
After some testing, I found the Dp-X1 is very unforgiving. Any artifacts/errors in recording will smash you clearly in the face.
Do you have any idea to reduce this unwanted issue, my K10 is very sensitive to that :frowning2:

Welcome to the cruel world of HiRes. The better player-headphones you have, you hear more and more bad recordings and even artists mistakes. On other side, you get more excitement from good recordings. Only way - search for good recordings.
 
Nov 30, 2017 at 7:12 AM Post #15,221 of 16,375
After some testing, I found the Dp-X1 is very unforgiving. Any artifacts/errors in recording will smash you clearly in the face.
Do you have any idea to reduce this unwanted issue, my K10 is very sensitive to that :frowning2:

Use neutron or neplayer app which is more forgiving.
 
Nov 30, 2017 at 7:27 AM Post #15,223 of 16,375
With most people buying gray import (including me), everything comes with a cost. I paid 30% less than local dealer's price. So the risk of not having local warranty/repair bears in the saving.

And as normal owner group I think there are suggestion for prevention and repair.

Dpx1 won the first place in most sales in Japan and Hong Kong. I think people will not agree it is false design.
 

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