Non-audiophile reactions to high-end headphones
Dec 30, 2012 at 2:43 AM Post #5,701 of 6,432
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James I have been listening to Classical for about a decade, and a very good source for vinyl is believe it or not Goodwill stores.  I have bought 30-40 records at a time for 50 cents a piece.  At least 3/4 of them are very playable, and I do screen them for defects, before I buy them.  Most people who collected classical recordings on vinyl took rather good care of their collection, so if the in-laws didn't use them for a frisbee, or allowed the grand-kids to play with them before sending them off to the Goodwill, the records are still  usually in good shape.
 
One source of German recordings that never fails of the record is still in good shape is a company called Deutsche Grammophon.  That name will be in a yellow square, sometimes about the top quarter of the album cover, sometimes smaller.  they always took pains to do a very good recording.  My latest find from them is Igor Strawinsky, Der Feuervogel, (The Firebird) London Symphony Orchestra.  I have several different copies of The Firebird on vinyl, it is one of my daughters favorites, and this is the best recording so far.
 
BTW most people have heard that piece they just do not call it that.
 
It is the soundtrack Walt Disney used for "Fantasia" his 1940 animated musical film staring Mickey Mouse movie,  which is why my daughter likes the recording so much.
that recording is one for the headphones late at night.  right now it's Ozzy though, still love my rock and roll.

I'm two steps ahead of your suggestion, been shopping thrift stores since the 80's. However, I used to look more for music gear and clothes. Now that gear is scarce, I had to expand my search-to-benefit gas-cost ratio, so to say. One of the 2 records I got yesterday was Deutsche Grammophone Symphony No.3 "Organ" in near mint. Today I scored another Deutshe NM called Rapsodie Espagnole. You are right about their sound quality. The Firebird did have a part that really sounded like Fantasia to me but it was a little different if I remember. The nice thing about that Firebird album I got is it's a very early digital recording and inside the cover they give an explanation how digital works that would make sense to almost anybody. Today I purchased 6 records, 27 cd's, a pair of headphones I need to look up and a pair of Senheiser HDR 110 (which look almost unused, though I don't know if they work yet) at a few different thrift stores and one record shop: Total cost $80- One of the cd's was $10 but I had never heard it: David Gilmore "On an Island." I got a few 24 bit recordings and a few 20 but they're mostly classical. I hope I'm done buying classical now.
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I have also been looking for some master recordings, because I guess they're closest to the original, which is best and rarest I guess. It's probably a stupid thought, but after reading about how digital recordings worked in that album cover, I wondered about all those old Beatles recordings and how they must have been cut up and spliced so much that we may have never heard a master recording of theirs. But with classical recordings in digital you're surely hearing, beginning to end, the way it was recorded, and without the supposed white noise that using tape gives off. I started trying to hear for this so called white noise in analog recordings today, but it's only a maybe I can hear it at this point. So, as you can see I'd buy almost anything. But talked to a guy at one of the thrift stores today who was looking through VHS who said he has over 2500 records and even more VHS. Don't want to be that guy 
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Dec 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM Post #5,702 of 6,432
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To be honest..am alsoabit afraid of that soundwaves stuff causing stuff in ur brain..i even turn off most of my stuff off at night..only my refrigirator and the alarm clock stays on..and central heating ofcourse..lolz
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That's just silly. Stop doing it please. Sound is just vibrating air, it can't cause mutations.
 
Dec 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM Post #5,703 of 6,432
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That's just silly. Stop doing it please. Sound is just vibrating air, it can't cause mutations.

i meant the electricity waves...like in bluetooth
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i know soundwaves of headphones dont hurt..only maybe when u put the volume to high and u get deaf
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Dec 30, 2012 at 1:14 PM Post #5,704 of 6,432
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i meant the electricity waves...like in bluetooth
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i know soundwaves of headphones dont hurt..only maybe when u put the volume to high and u get deaf
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Equally silly to be honest :) The "electricity waves" aka electric fields and magnetic fields are something you're exposed to pretty much all the time. You got electric fields around everything that is charged, and you got magnetic fields around everything where a current is flowing. Electromagnetic waves consists of these two fields.
 
Are you afraid of the heat coming from a light bulb? With your logic you should be, it's electromagnetic radiation that you feel as heat :wink:
 
Dec 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM Post #5,706 of 6,432
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Equally silly to be honest :) The "electricity waves" aka electric fields and magnetic fields are something you're exposed to pretty much all the time. You got electric fields around everything that is charged, and you got magnetic fields around everything where a current is flowing. Electromagnetic waves consists of these two fields.
 
Are you afraid of the heat coming from a light bulb? With your logic you should be, it's electromagnetic radiation that you feel as heat :wink:

It is unhealthy, but the effect is so little it's negligible.
 
Dec 30, 2012 at 2:00 PM Post #5,707 of 6,432
It's only light wavelengths, hehe. UV rays may be able to cause skin cancer, but i don't think bluetooth signals are going to hurt you just as much as radio signals. (Those things are EVERYWHERE, literally swamping everything.)
 
Dec 30, 2012 at 5:11 PM Post #5,708 of 6,432
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Originally Posted by clifwst /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
One source of German recordings that never fails of the record is still in good shape is a company called Deutsche Grammophon.  That name will be in a yellow square, sometimes about the top quarter of the album cover, sometimes smaller.  they always took pains to do a very good recording.  My latest find from them is Igor Strawinsky, Der Feuervogel, (The Firebird) London Symphony Orchestra.  I have several different copies of The Firebird on vinyl, it is one of my daughters favorites, and this is the best recording so far.

+1 to this. About half of all my classical recordings are Deutche Grammophon.
 
Dec 30, 2012 at 8:19 PM Post #5,709 of 6,432
Haha! I kinda started the electronic scare thing on this thread and, though I'm not an expert I will try to give some different insight. So, if you follow most recommendations, there are things you can do to reduce your exposure to cancerous radiation and whatnot, even if it's minor compared to other stuff out there: like covering lights with a shade, you know, like they used to do. Most lights are not supposed to be unexposed, that's one of the reasons they put plastic and glass coverings over bulbs in your house and at the store. As far as Cell Phones, I keep mine in my car. When I use it, I use headphones with a microphone instead of holding my it up to my head. It's like when you microwave your food, you can walk away from it when your food's cooking or put your head against it, that's your choice. It's my opinion that since your phone is sending and receiving a signal at the speed and distance that it does, that maybe it's not all so innocent. I also wouldn't want to live next to a radio tower (or Snoop Dog's house ((breathing second hand smoke joke)) which is likely leaking quite a bit of radiation in an attempt to send it's signal. I do think the "it's only vibrating air" argument is an over-simplification, but you will obviously need more than my simple brain to speak the ultimate truth about this subject. I can say as fact, after working in a mental hospital for a year, that radio waves and the like are a major cause of paranoia in the thoughts of the legally insane. 
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Dec 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM Post #5,710 of 6,432
Haha! I kinda started the electronic scare thing on this thread and, though I'm not an expert I will try to give some different insight. So, if you follow most recommendations, there are things you can do to reduce your exposure to cancerous radiation and whatnot, even if it's minor compared to other stuff out there: like covering lights with a shade, you know, like they used to do. Most lights are not supposed to be unexposed, that's one of the reasons they put plastic and glass coverings over bulbs in your house and at the store. As far as Cell Phones, I keep mine in my car. When I use it, I use headphones with a microphone instead of holding my it up to my head. It's like when you microwave your food, you can walk away from it when your food's cooking or put your head against it, that's your choice. It's my opinion that since your phone is sending and receiving a signal at the speed and distance that it does, that maybe it's not all so innocent. I also wouldn't want to live next to a radio tower (or Snoop Dog's house ((breathing second hand smoke joke)) which is likely leaking quite a bit of radiation in an attempt to send it's signal. I do think the "it's only vibrating air" argument is an over-simplification, but you will obviously need more than my simple brain to speak the ultimate truth about this subject. I can say as fact, after working in a mental hospital for a year, that radio waves and the like are a major cause of paranoia in the thoughts of the legally insane. :xf_eek:  

Thanks for the explanation, i also worked at a hospital as a procurement specialist and all the electronic stuff i had to buy for the sensitive departments were equipment that were totally isolated from receiving or transmitting any kind of waves/radiation and so on. So maybe i got a bit paranoia because of that :wink:and yep..i do switch off my three mobiles at night :D
 
Dec 30, 2012 at 9:03 PM Post #5,711 of 6,432
Luckily as humans our senses are not as sensitive as other animals, or we may be more affected by some of these waves. I don't worry about everything around me to the point of wearing a silly helmet made out of aluminum foil or something. But it's hard to know the lasting effects of BlueTooth headsets and WIFI signals on people until long-term use has been studied. I can say that I borrowed a Sony infrared headset from a friend and when I used it, the sending unit got very hot. I figured that it was not worth using because that much heat must have used a lot of power, and unlike some of the other wireless stuff out there I couldn't listen to it outside the room. Anyhow, I heard that if you stare into the sun you will see a warning printed on it that says not to stare at it.
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Jan 2, 2013 at 8:16 PM Post #5,712 of 6,432
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I built my first computer when I was 13, saved up money from yard work around my neighborhood and from Birthday's/Chrsitmas. Big family means a massive cash in during christmas which made my life easy.

I built mine when I was 11 or 12 or something around there back in 2009. Still running strong today. I sold a guitar and did work around anywhere to save up
 
Jan 2, 2013 at 10:47 PM Post #5,713 of 6,432
(wow this thread has gone off topic a lot)
 
the reactions from them listening to my audiophile gear was always like "yeah sounds ok but how much did u pay for that again? u crazy !?! my beats smash that thing" , guess that for one to be/become an audiophile it takes more than just gearing up hi-end hi-cost reproduction (no, not that reproduction, i m talking about audio) toys...
 
 
Jan 2, 2013 at 10:58 PM Post #5,714 of 6,432
Audiophile quality headphones really shouldn't shock and awe the listener. A good headphone will let the music do the shocking and awing. 
 
Therefor non-audiophiles will not appreciate the difference. For example, I find my Q701 to be pretty much perfect along with a very mild 2db bass boost. I brought them to my fathers house along with my E17 for him to try and he said they sounded fine, but he liked them with about 8db bass added. He also liked them way louder too. I listen at about 25-30 out of 60 with my amp, he was cranking them well into the 40's out of 60. He didn't appreciate the detail or the big soundstage, he just wanted more bass and he wanted them loud. 
 

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