[Cotnijoe]

Yes, to clarify its an improvement!

 

[FullCircle]

  So I haven't been around in a while since I have been blissfully listening to my Heir A4's but did take note a while back of the new Noble line by the Wizard.  While I was excited so see him back in the business, I was disappointed that there wasn't an A6 equivalent. When I was ordering my A4's I was very tempted to upgrade to the A6 because it seemed like the perfect marriage of true sound with maybe a little more power to the base.  On a whim, I was looking at the Noble website and see that there is now an 6C, is that like an updated A6 or something completely different?

 

   
Ah, that's disappointing if true. Does anyone know how well higher end noble IEMs extend? Do they have troubles over 13-15k? Or do they not have this problem?

 

 
Tao, he's saying the first generation of the 4, which John created while at Heir, had a frequency dip.  John fixed it when he created the new line of IEMs for Noble.  It's not an issue in the current iteration. The 4 is fantastic, by the way.  

 
 
 
It is against forum rules to discuss banned members, or banned companies 
 
 
 
 

 

[Watagump]

The first rule of banned club is?

 

[krismusic]

It is against forum rules to discuss banned members, or banned companies 

I don't think airbrushing Stalin out of the picture is healthy!

 

[krismusic]

Not too sure about the K10. Everything sounds very "boosted".

All is well. The K10 is not fat. Just big boned.

 

[kalrykh]

If it results in my ban, so be it. There's no ill intent and mentioning your previous projects to help a potential buyer understand something doesn't hurt anything. If helping someone results in punishment, it's not a place I want to be involved with in the first place.

 

[Watagump]

If it results in my ban, so be it. There's no ill intent and mentioning your previous projects to help a potential buyer understand something doesn't hurt anything. If helping someone results in punishment, it's not a place I want to be involved with in the first place.

You wont get banned for it, I haven't, they MIGHT just contact you, but might not since John already brought it up.

 

[FullCircle]

 
You wont get banned for it, I haven't, they MIGHT just contact you, but might not since John already brought it up.

 
 
My point is....   Noble isn't going to address comments or questions regarding a banned company (or their products)   as it is against forum rules to do so.
 
 
I don't want to do anything that may result in interupting relations with our host head-fi, especially when
 
 
 
Im Living the Dream
 

 

[Watagump]

   
 
My point is....   Noble isn't going to address comments or questions regarding a banned company (or their products)   as it is against forum rules to do so.
 
 
I don't want to do anything that may result in interupting relations with our host head-fi, especially when
 
 
 
Im Living the Dream
 

I know, I have been warned about talking about them, that's all, just letting people know its not like they are going to hang us.

 

[minnus]

Savant is in stock, but they are going quite fast with lots of interest from both individual customers and distributors. Orders will ship within 24 hours of being received.

We are now officially out of BTS. If you order a Savant during the promotional period, you will be contacted with the option of either having your Savant ship first and BTS later, or wait to have both ship at the same time.

 
Thanks! I actually ordered mine last night. I haven't receive an email about the BTS delay yet - I hope it ships out tonight!

 

[Taowolf51]

 
Tao, he's saying the first generation of the 4, which John created while at Heir, had a frequency dip.  John fixed it when he created the new line of IEMs for Noble.  It's not an issue in the current iteration. The 4 is fantastic, by the way.  

 
I know, I'm disappointed because I misunderstood the description, I thought it was saying it didn't have an issue I've noticed in IEMs with BA drivers, notably the lack of energy over 13-15kHz.
 
Here's what I mean:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE846BlueFilterSample2.pdf
-40db at 12.5kHz, -50db (bottom of the chart) at 19kHz.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/UniqueMelody3X.pdf
All frequencies above 10k are lower than -25db, with 13k being -50db in one ear.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE535.pdf
etc.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/EtymoticER4PT.pdf
etc.
 
The Noble PR does better than most, with the P tuning having better extension than the R.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NoblePRRTuning.pdf
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NoblePRPTuning.pdf
 
All these IEMs (except the PR with P tuning) have some kind of distinctive drop between 10 and 20k, and a big one at that. I would normally chalk it up to unreliable high frequency measurements, but it's so distinctive and consistent, and you don't see it with measured full size headphones (which I'm more used to). I haven't had the chance to listen to nearly as many IEMs as I have full size headphones, but every one I've tried so far seems to have very little or no upper treble, which removes shimmer and air from music, which I quite like, and I find it hard adjusting to a lack of this part of the frequency range in music.
This is the "controversial dip in the treble" I thought the description was mentioning, and was trying to find out the reason for the dip (the upper treble one I'm talking about, not the 4k one). Is it a limitation of BA drivers? The small chassis of IEMs? Or perhaps Tyll's measuring setup?

 

[FullCircle]

   
I know, I'm disappointed because I misunderstood the description, I thought it was saying it didn't have an issue I've noticed in IEMs with BA drivers, notably the lack of energy over 13-15kHz.
 
Here's what I mean:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE846BlueFilterSample2.pdf
-40db at 12.5kHz, -50db (bottom of the chart) at 19kHz.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/UniqueMelody3X.pdf
All frequencies above 10k are lower than -25db, with 13k being -50db in one ear.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSE535.pdf
etc.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/EtymoticER4PT.pdf
etc.
 
The Noble PR does better than most, with the P tuning having better extension than the R.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NoblePRRTuning.pdf
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NoblePRPTuning.pdf
 
All these IEMs (except the PR with P tuning) have some kind of distinctive drop between 10 and 20k, and a big one at that. I would normally chalk it up to unreliable high frequency measurements, but it's so distinctive and consistent, and you don't see it with measured full size headphones (which I'm more used to). I haven't had the chance to listen to nearly as many IEMs as I have full size headphones, but every one I've tried so far seems to have very little or no upper treble, which removes shimmer and air from music, which I quite like, and I find it hard adjusting to a lack of this part of the frequency range in music.
This is the "controversial dip in the treble" I thought the description was mentioning, and was trying to find out the reason for the dip (the upper treble one I'm talking about, not the 4k one). Is it a limitation of BA drivers? The small chassis of IEMs? Or perhaps Tyll's measuring setup?

 
 

 
 
 
 
 
Noble doesn't talk about graphs as well....   
 
That being said, you can spend some time on the Knowles website and there you can learn about the limitations of BADs

 

[xuandshoe]

First time posting on this forum and on this site in general. But I do have experience with TOTL iems such as K3003 and Shure SE846. 
 
Just want to thank Brannan and Sunny for the absolutely phenomenal service I received on my K10. Since my order, reception then refit, we've exchanged no less than 50 emails and they were nothing but patient, professional and friendly. 
 
Also to Dr. Moulton, your CIEMs are beyond words. I've always been fascinated and impressed by your designs. But lately you've taken it to a whole new level. I remember looking at the Sweetgum Tree Prestige on the Noble Instagram page and just dropping my jaw for a solid five minutes.
I really really, genuinely don't understand how anyone can go back to other CIEM companies after owning a Noble TOTL. 
 
I do, however, have a question for Dr. Moulton. Are you content with the size of Noble? Or would you want to see it grow and expand in the future perhaps to the size of some of your competitors?
 
 
For some reason, I can't post pictures  
Can't share with you all the beauty of my K10s.

 

[Saraguie]

Check the guidelines. You need to post 5? Times before you can include pictures in the post.

 

[krismusic]

Noble doesn't talk about graphs as well....   

That being said, you can spend some time on the Knowles website and there you can learn about the limitations of BADs

Out of interest, why does Noble not talk about graphs? I have also not been able to find frequency range specs. Are these not useful tools in choosing what gear to audition? If Noble products were not so good, I would be suspicious of a company that does not publish performance specs.