[dmphile]

A quick listen and it didn't take me long to come to the conclusion that they are easily the best sounding tws I've heard so far.

What I like:
Natural yet energetic vocals and mid range
Strong sub bass emphasis
Good amount of air and treble extension
Soundstage good width and depth
They are gorgeous but read below for what I don't like...wrt the build

What I don't like:
These things are slippery as heck given the lacquer finish. I struggle every time I try to get them outta the case due to the finish
The top of the case and hinge scrapes the bottom of the case and feels flimsy and cheap despite the luxurious wood and lacquer finish.
You need the USB C adapter to charge the case since it's so recessed you need that extra long adapter to get it plugged.

Other than that, those are my initial thoughts. More to come as I give them time to burn in.

 

[meomap]

Does it drop connection from to time like the Pro?
Don't get why mine drops bt connection like that.
Moving/ Rotate your head would drop instantly and connected again.
Worst TWS I ever owned....
Other Sony work like a charm ..

 

[dmphile]

Does it drop connection from to time like the Pro?
Don't get why mine drops bt connection like that.
Moving/ Rotate your head would drop instantly and connected again.
Worst TWS I ever owned....
Other Sony work like a charm ..

No issues with connectivity so far.

 

[Garney]

A quick listen and it didn't take me long to come to the conclusion that they are easily the best sounding tws I've heard so far.

What I like:
Natural yet energetic vocals and mid range
Strong sub bass emphasis
Good amount of air and treble extension
Soundstage good width and depth
They are gorgeous but read below for what I don't like...wrt the build

What I don't like:
These things are slippery as heck given the lacquer finish. I struggle every time I try to get them outta the case due to the finish
The top of the case and hinge scrapes the bottom of the case and feels flimsy and cheap despite the luxurious wood and lacquer finish.
You need the USB C adapter to charge the case since it's so recessed you need that extra long adapter to get it plugged.

Other than that, those are my initial thoughts. More to come as I give them time to burn in.

Are you pairing these to an iPhone or Android device? I’m having a hard time justifying jumping ship from the APP’s as an iPhone user simply because of how seamlessly they work together.

Definitely wouldn’t mind having higher quality sound in a TWS for flights, though. I’ve been eyeing the FoKus for a while now but haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

 

[dmphile]

Are you pairing these to an iPhone or Android device? I’m having a hard time justifying jumping ship from the APP’s as an iPhone user simply because of how seamlessly they work together.

Definitely wouldn’t mind having higher quality sound in a TWS for flights, though. I’ve been eyeing the FoKus for a while now but haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

Android but if I'm listening purely to music I actually pair it with the M9+ and it's magical. I don't know why or how there is a difference since it's the same BT connection and codec but it sounds outstanding compared to my S22+

 

[dmphile]

I must admit, the Noble bros have a tuning profile that's right up my alley. They did it with Ronin and even with their Fokus Prestige. The bass is full and gratifying and doesn't feel unnatural or bloated. Stays in its lane while giving space to the other frequencies. Put that 8.2mm DD from the Fokus Prestige in the Ronin and I think I'd be done with the hobby.

The fit is also superb. I've got unusually large ear canals but they almost feel like CIEMs.

*Chefs kiss*

 

[Crazeee]

Cross post from The Watercooler thread, Kudos to @FullCircle John for creating those masterpieces 10 hours listening sessions incoming!

 

[zerodayAkane]

What is the difference between the falcon line and the fokus line?

 

[SynaestheticA]

What is the difference between the falcon line and the fokus line?

The location of availability is one difference and the sound quality another.

Full Circle has described the Falcon line as being like a high quality reliable car (Toyota) while the Focus line is more like (BMW, Porsche etc).

Falcon is intended to be a Japan / Asia release while Fokus Europe / Western countries.

Also consider tuning differences here. I've found Japan tuning reduces bass.

Falcon however has ANC. Fokus line doesn't as of yet.

 

[FullCircle]

What is the difference between the falcon line and the fokus line?

The design teams are different, materials are different, components are different (some shared) PCB are different
Physical designs are different
Charge cases are different

 

[phiemon]

The design teams are different, materials are different, components are different (some shared) PCB are different
Physical designs are different
Charge cases are different

What about the sound? Also different?

 

[FullCircle]

What about the sound? Also different?

"Sound different" is subjective interpretation.

I can't really talk about subjective matters. (Head Fi Rules)

But I can say they are tuned differently.
 

 

[zerodayAkane]

The design teams are different, materials are different, components are different (some shared) PCB are different
Physical designs are different
Charge cases are different

Other than what you mentioned, are there like any difference in guiding philosophy/concepts between the 2 product lines?
Like maybe for example falcon series is like bringing better value at a more affordable price point while fokus is more towards iems looking tws for example?
Or even like what is the rationale of having 2 product lines instead of just releasing tws under the Fokus since after the falcon pro, new releases were all fokus since. Not including the falcon max which was just released.

 

[FullCircle]

Other than what you mentioned, are there like any difference in guiding philosophy/concepts between the 2 product lines?
Like maybe for example falcon series is like bringing better value at a more affordable price point while fokus is more towards iems looking tws for example?
Or even like what is the rationale of having 2 product lines instead of just releasing tws under the Fokus since after the falcon pro, new releases were all fokus since. Not including the falcon max which was just released.

This isn't a complex concept. The car industry does this along with other industries (black & decker/DeWalt)

Different price points, different market economies, different quality levels

 

[Quang23693]

Lets try the Azla max asmr, great balanced and clarity.

Could you help me compare to the azla max standard? Thanks in advance