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Agreed, except that I mostly hear the basses as a point source in the lower right, rather than filling the right side of the stage with sound. Kind of distracting and annoying to me. One of my few complaints about the Atlas sound.



I get driver flex from time to time. I wear my Atlas over-ear with the cord pointed between "up" and "forward". That's partly because, like briman1000 says below, I need the cord to help support the weight of the IEM and also that orientation points the sound pipe down my ear canal better than "down". I've used Spin Fit 240s (dual flange) to good effect, but their bore is too small to let all the sound through. I have also had decent luck with the included Final E, but again, I wish the bore were bigger.



Which Comply do you use? And, do you push the tips into your ear canal like an ear plug, or use a foamie that's big enough to fill up your outer ear and not push the IEM in? I've tried the Isolation (medium and small) and can't get them seated properly in my ear canal. I haven't tried really big foamies to full up my outer ear, though.

I would really like to use Spiral Dots because the full diameter bore lets the last bit of treble sparkle through, but they don't insert deep enough in my ear canal to support the housing, even with the cable over ear.
If the sound is different between the left and the right channel for you, maybe it would be a good idea to ask for a warranty, they should have bass in both ears in a similar amount :)
 
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Hey all. I'm looking for any impressions or comparisons of the Comet vs the Fiio FH5. Any and all help would be appreciated. Cheers.
 
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Sadly, custom ADV tips for the Atlas are not for me. I can’t get used to the fit, and they alter the sound of the Atlas depending on how I have them inserted. Oh well, it was worth a shot. I’ve gone back to spiral dots and will have to limit my listening sessions to an hour or so, at which point my ears get sore from the weight.

On a happier note, I just picked up the RME ADI-2 Dac, and the Atlas blew me away on that device! Not sure if the Fiio M11 DAP is holding the Atlas back, but I’m glad I can finally hear the full potential of these babies. Now I just need to find an 8 foot balanced iem cable...
What do the adv custom tips do to the sound? Would you elabarate?
Was thinking of getting some....
 
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If the sound is different between the left and the right channel for you, maybe it would be a good idea to ask for a warranty, they should have bass in both ears in a similar amount :)
Not in this case. I was listening to orchestral music. The basses are typically stage right, somewhat forward in an orchestra.
 
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What do the adv custom tips do to the sound? Would you elabarate?
Was thinking of getting some....
My experience (for the Andros but the tips fit the Atlas as well) is that they increase bass impact but at the expense of a little treble sparkle. The isolation is absolutely perfect. But sound-wise I prefer the foams.
 
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So, my Atlas's have arrived and on the one hand I have what I believe to be my 'end game' IEM, I cant imagine it gets much better than this. However, I am having real issues with driver flex and its ruining my enjoyment. I have tried numerous tips and the ML Spiral Dots fit perfectly yet because of the great seal the sound cuts out. I spent 10 minutes trying to get a balanced sound this morning, and if I swallow (or suchlike) it momentarily cuts out also. I am going to order some foam tips but I have never been a fan of those, I assume Comply are the ones to get. This is the first I have heard of, let alone experienced, driver flex and it surprises me that silicone tips are included with the product when this is such an issue. Makes me wonder how many get returned based on this problem alone. That said, if I can find a suitable tip, then I have landed myself a stunning pair of earphones. Otherwise, they will be on the Classifieds forum soon :/.
 
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So, my Atlas's have arrived and on the one hand I have what I believe to be my 'end game' IEM, I cant imagine it gets much better than this. However, I am having real issues with driver flex and its ruining my enjoyment. I have tried numerous tips and the ML Spiral Dots fit perfectly yet because of the great seal the sound cuts out. I spent 10 minutes trying to get a balanced sound this morning, and if I swallow (or suchlike) it momentarily cuts out also. I am going to order some foam tips but I have never been a fan of those, I assume Comply are the ones to get. This is the first I have heard of, let alone experienced, driver flex and it surprises me that silicone tips are included with the product when this is such an issue. Makes me wonder how many get returned based on this problem alone. That said, if I can find a suitable tip, then I have landed myself a stunning pair of earphones. Otherwise, they will be on the Classifieds forum soon :/.
Thought the atlas came with foam tips? The Comets certainly did. Anyway if nothing else works thought about getting custom tips from Custom Art or Advanced Sound?
 
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So, my Atlas's have arrived and on the one hand I have what I believe to be my 'end game' IEM, I cant imagine it gets much better than this. However, I am having real issues with driver flex and its ruining my enjoyment. I have tried numerous tips and the ML Spiral Dots fit perfectly yet because of the great seal the sound cuts out. I spent 10 minutes trying to get a balanced sound this morning, and if I swallow (or suchlike) it momentarily cuts out also. I am going to order some foam tips but I have never been a fan of those, I assume Comply are the ones to get. This is the first I have heard of, let alone experienced, driver flex and it surprises me that silicone tips are included with the product when this is such an issue. Makes me wonder how many get returned based on this problem alone. That said, if I can find a suitable tip, then I have landed myself a stunning pair of earphones. Otherwise, they will be on the Classifieds forum soon :/.
Someone had the suggestion to use a needle and poke some holes in the bore of the tips. I haven’t tried it personally but it’s worth giving a try I guess
 
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So, my Atlas's have arrived and on the one hand I have what I believe to be my 'end game' IEM, I cant imagine it gets much better than this. However, I am having real issues with driver flex and its ruining my enjoyment. I have tried numerous tips and the ML Spiral Dots fit perfectly yet because of the great seal the sound cuts out. I spent 10 minutes trying to get a balanced sound this morning, and if I swallow (or suchlike) it momentarily cuts out also. I am going to order some foam tips but I have never been a fan of those, I assume Comply are the ones to get. This is the first I have heard of, let alone experienced, driver flex and it surprises me that silicone tips are included with the product when this is such an issue. Makes me wonder how many get returned based on this problem alone. That said, if I can find a suitable tip, then I have landed myself a stunning pair of earphones. Otherwise, they will be on the Classifieds forum soon :/.
Someone had the suggestion to use a needle and poke some holes in the bore of the tips. I haven’t tried it personally but it’s worth giving a try I guess
Just FYI, that was me, because as many others, I had the same driver flex issue, found that solution, and every once in a while I drop by to share the same things:

- Don't worry about the flex. It takes time, but the ear canals get used to the shape and then it is not an issue ever again. Also getting practice at inserting them to minimize trapping air inside helps.

- The holes I poked in the spinal dots, "sacrificing" a pair of tips, were poked with small scissors, to make a couple of opposing holes per tip with 2-3 mm length, right at the crease where the tube ends and the bell starts. Round holes didn't do it for me, because the air didn't escape. With a linear hole, twisting as you insert opens the hole that little bit, enough to let the air out and help eliminate the flex.
Obviously it is a temporary solution, but it worked really well for me. After a couple of months, it wasn't necessary, I switched to un-poked tips, and no issues now, except amazing sound quality.

Hope this helps!
 
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Just FYI, that was me, because as many others, I had the same driver flex issue, found that solution, and every once in a while I drop by to share the same things:

- Don't worry about the flex. It takes time, but the ear canals get used to the shape and then it is not an issue ever again. Also getting practice at inserting them to minimize trapping air inside helps.

- The holes I poked in the spinal dots, "sacrificing" a pair of tips, were poked with small scissors, to make a couple of opposing holes per tip with 2-3 mm length, right at the crease where the tube ends and the bell starts. Round holes didn't do it for me, because the air didn't escape. With a linear hole, twisting as you insert opens the hole that little bit, enough to let the air out and help eliminate the flex.
Obviously it is a temporary solution, but it worked really well for me. After a couple of months, it wasn't necessary, I switched to un-poked tips, and no issues now, except amazing sound quality.

Hope this helps!
Thanks for the advice. So you mean that even though the tip is silicon, and flexes back to its original shape once removed from the ear, that in time the ear canal will in some way adapt to the tips? I had no idea that would be the case, that's really interesting :)
 
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Thanks for the advice. So you mean that even though the tip is silicon, and flexes back to its original shape once removed from the ear, that in time the ear canal will in some way adapt to the tips? I had no idea that would be the case, that's really interesting :)
Yep, exactly. That was my experience, and unexpected at that. I noticed my ears not needing the holed tips anymore, after I tore one by mistake and I said "let me try the untouched tips again and see".
One reason maybe that the Spirals are really sturdy (which probably helps the sound quality) so their level of malleability is limited, which helps adaptation.

Keep in mind that my ear canals adapting was also based on an average of 2-3 hours use per day. That'll do it for almost any conditioning you may want... :wink:
 
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I find the standard foams work best for me for sound and comfort. Mandarins and spiral dots give me a lot of driver flex. The custom Adv sound ones don’t. Probably depends in part on ear anatomy, but I could barely get any sound with the mandarins in medium or small; they didn’t stay in well but flex...oh boy. The stock medium marshmallows Incan wear for hours, no problems
 
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I find the standard foams work best for me for sound and comfort. Mandarins and spiral dots give me a lot of driver flex. The custom Adv sound ones don’t. Probably depends in part on ear anatomy, but I could barely get any sound with the mandarins in medium or small; they didn’t stay in well but flex...oh boy. The stock medium marshmallows Incan wear for hours, no problems
When I tried the large symbios on the custom art universal all bass vanished! Thought I had somehow broken it. Tried another tip and the bass came back.
 
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So, my Atlas's have arrived and on the one hand I have what I believe to be my 'end game' IEM, I cant imagine it gets much better than this. However, I am having real issues with driver flex and its ruining my enjoyment. I have tried numerous tips and the ML Spiral Dots fit perfectly yet because of the great seal the sound cuts out. I spent 10 minutes trying to get a balanced sound this morning, and if I swallow (or suchlike) it momentarily cuts out also. I am going to order some foam tips but I have never been a fan of those, I assume Comply are the ones to get. This is the first I have heard of, let alone experienced, driver flex and it surprises me that silicone tips are included with the product when this is such an issue. Makes me wonder how many get returned based on this problem alone. That said, if I can find a suitable tip, then I have landed myself a stunning pair of earphones. Otherwise, they will be on the Classifieds forum soon :/.
As you can see above, tips are a very personal thing. I don't have a single pair of foamies that works for me. All my IEMs have silicone tips on them.

Another idea I've seen on this thread to help with drive flex is to insert a short piece of string (like think fishing line so it doesn't get squished) between the sound pipe and the inside of the tip. That provides a small conduit for air to escape through.

My go-to silicone tips are also Spiral Dots, but those don't work for me with my Atlas. The Final Type E supplied with the Atlas provide a good seal without too much driver flex hassle for me, but they do muffle the extreme treble, reducing the top end sparkle I like about the Atlas. I also found Spin Fit 240s to work well in my ears.

Good luck.
 
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I like lots of different types of music such as metal to classical to jazz. Are the atlas good all rounders?
 
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