New Beyerdynamic T1 (2nd Generation)
Sep 10, 2023 at 11:13 AM Post #3,871 of 3,924
The T1.3 has more in common with the T5.2 than the T1.2 - same driver in 5.2, 5.3 and 1.3. I've always really liked the T5, so it's a joy to get an open backed version (without AK branding), but I do wish it wasn't at the loss of the 600 ohm driver variant.

I keep crossing my fingers that Beyer is going to do something special for the 100th Anniversary next year :)
 
Sep 10, 2023 at 11:47 AM Post #3,872 of 3,924
The T1.3 has more in common with the T5.2 than the T1.2 - same driver in 5.2, 5.3 and 1.3. I've always really liked the T5, so it's a joy to get an open backed version (without AK branding), but I do wish it wasn't at the loss of the 600 ohm driver variant.

I keep crossing my fingers that Beyer is going to do something special for the 100th Anniversary next year :)
I really hope Beyer does something special for the 100th anniversary as well, I'm hoping for something new, good, and interesting. Beyer is my favorite headphone manufacturer, while I liked the new DT 700/900 Pro X their headband was painful to wear for me so couldn't keep them so I was bummed out about that. Yeah I feel the loss of a 600 Ohm variant was a mistake because you lose amp versatility, it alienated many who built a system around the Gen 1/2, and it's not as sensitive to system noise.
 
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Sep 16, 2023 at 9:12 PM Post #3,873 of 3,924
• I took delivery a few days ago of a new, unopened set of Beyerdynamic T1 Generation 2 headphones: 600 ohm nominal impedance + detachable cables. After letting them break-in for several hours each day via CD replay at moderate volume, I like what I hear.
• T1G2 offers to me excellent tonal balance with strong, propulsive, well-defined bass, delicate yet clear & assured midrange & treble. T1G2 is moderately warm and is not governed by an upper midrange / lower treble peak. Soundstage is airy, open, wide and has nice ‘layering’ within: always a plus in my listening preferences.
• So far, T1G2 has impressed me with its convincing ability to sound ‘natural’ with an appropriate level of detail retrieval and without etch or glare.
• My next step with T1G2 involves replacing the headphone cables which are OK but too long. In the making is a set of Lavricables Grand Silver of two-meter length and with 150 hours of break-in. My DT880 (600 ohms) benefited mightily from Grand Silvers. I fully expect likewise vis-a-vis T1G2.
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Oct 27, 2023 at 2:59 PM Post #3,876 of 3,924
Beyer T1, Generation 2, 600-ohm version really comes to life with the OTL Woo Audio WA3 and Lavricables Grand Silver ☺️:
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Oct 27, 2023 at 3:19 PM Post #3,878 of 3,924
Beyer T1, Generation 2, 600-ohm version really comes to life with the OTL Woo Audio WA3 and Lavricables Grand Silver ☺️:7BEB933B-6838-405A-9C4E-0C211ABAC80E.jpeg
Still one of my favourite headphones. In wish they still made the t1 2nd gen
 
Oct 27, 2023 at 3:39 PM Post #3,879 of 3,924
T1 loves otl ❤️
… those OTL that have high output impedance. [Some do not. For example: Linear Tube Audio MZ3, 2.0 ohms; Schiit Valhalla 2, 15.7 ohms] 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Oct 27, 2023 at 3:40 PM Post #3,880 of 3,924
Oct 27, 2023 at 5:09 PM Post #3,881 of 3,924
I have listened to T1G3 …. not my cuppa ….
It was a stupid move to go for 32 Ohms. The main thing was the high impedance to be combined with tubes. Why stop making it? Sennheiser did the opposite with the 300 Ohms HD660S2, backtracking the lower 150 Ohms (?) impedance HD660S. I mean HD650 and HD600 is still selling
 
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Oct 27, 2023 at 8:50 PM Post #3,882 of 3,924
The 32 ohms and higher sensitivity of T1G3 was for the DAPper crowd, the ‘audionistas’: those who make a statement by the audio gear that they wear. 😳
 
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Oct 28, 2023 at 2:21 AM Post #3,883 of 3,924
The 32 ohms and higher sensitivity of T1G3 was for the DAPper crowd, the ‘audionistas’: those who make a statement by the audio gear that they wear. 😳
My main complaint about the T1.3 is they reduced the impedance so much. Wish it stuck with 600 or at least had 250 ohm or released a second more traditionally tuned variant of the Gen 3 with higher impedance.

But the T1.3 fixes the main issue I had with the T1.2, there is a slight lack of transparency/resonance in the upper mids/lower treble on the gen 2 that I was never able to eliminate. I've owned three T1 gen 2's (one silver and two black), they all had this problem to my ears. Maybe it's just how the headphone plays with my ears but it did bother me overtime. This is what actually caused me to choose the Gen 3 over the Gen 2 after owning both for many months despite there being things I liked more about the Gen 2.

The Gen 3 does become more neutral and less warm and less bassy with pad wear and the eventual clamp reduction from wear, a well worn one does sound better than a fresh one. The Gen 2 exhibited similar behavior becoming less warm and more mid-centric with wear.

Curious if Beyer will backtrack on the impedance with their next flagship or not.
 
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Oct 28, 2023 at 5:41 AM Post #3,884 of 3,924
Agree with everything said in posts above.

With all the multi-kilobuck cans that competitors are making nowadays, I wonder if Beyer will be creating some endgame exceeding the T-series both by SQ and money. By comparison, the current Beyer flagships are priced really competitively, almost mid-fi.

Mind you, all those competitors are low-Z as well with but a few exceptions.

As principally high-Z cans will have better control of their voice coils, and so more precise transients, I hope this low-Z fashion will subside at least on the desktop.
 
Oct 28, 2023 at 6:53 AM Post #3,885 of 3,924
The 32 ohms and higher sensitivity of T1G3 was for the DAPper crowd, the ‘audionistas’: those who make a statement by the audio gear that they wear. 😳
I thought Beyerdynamic had the T5p etc for portable use. They didn't have to cut the T1 to 32 ohm.

250-300 ohm might be a better choice, matching Sennheiser's Z.
 
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