Need help choosing monitoring headphones, CANNOT try them in the store I need help! Buying them VERY soon need all the feedback I can get!
Aug 22, 2011 at 10:27 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 12

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Hey everyone,

I need some urgent feedback and help on choosing between 5 headphone monitors, and since the local vendors don't actually have these models, I'm having it shipped and so I can't try any of them till I actually buy them.  I HAVE done quite a bit of research, and I have narrowed it down to these 4 - 5 models.

The Sennheiser HD 280'sHD 380's, the AKG K 240 MK II's, the AKG K 141 MK II's, & the AKG K 121's.
 
The headphones monitors will be used for HOME production of electronic dance music (trance) and will barely be used for personal audio or DJ'ing.  I have a few criteria/conditions which might help you guys narrow my search down:
 
- I need headphone monitors that are worth their money without need of amplification/volume attenuation.
- I don't know whether the headphones I need for the mentioned purpose should be closed, open, or semi-open.
- The headphones WILL be used occasionally for long production sessions of up to 6 hours at a time, so comfort is important but not as important as the other conditions.
- I need the headphones with the FLATTEST frequency response (across the spectrum), so that what I hear is what it actually sounds like and what it would most likely sound like if played on club speakers.
 
All I have to go on is your feedback guys.  Kindly keep your responses specific to the models I just mentioned, unless there is a better monitoring headphone I am missing out that is either AKG or Sennheiser (I narrowed it down to those 2 brands for sure) that is below $145ish (that's my budget).

Some notes from various reviews I read:

HD 380's: Have a good "audio/sound stage" but produce some kind of hissing sound...and need a volume attenuator and/or a headphone amp to take care of that problem...can anyone verify that? I'm on a limited budget, so if I buy the 380's I won't have any/enough cash left to buy any extra stuff like the amp or the attenuator.  Also, closed headphones, so some sound stage is lost? But better than the HD 280's?

K 240's: Semi-closed so there is some leakage involved, and so you don't hear everything you're supposed to. Also read that they tend to give a boosted bass response, which tends to muffle some of the mids.

K 141's & K 121's: Aren't as comfortable as the 240's and response isn't as flat and sound stage isn't as wide as the 240's.
 
I know about the AKG K 271's, but unfortunately I can't afford them :frowning2:

Help?! Thanks in advance people! (Please use simple terms guys :p)
 
Aug 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM Post #3 of 12
The K-240 MKll are a good choice, flat and open... If you have more budget go for the K702, with Apogee Duet, or the Mini DAC. You'll some need sound card, or hps amp that drive them well. Here more info: http://www.head-fi.org/t/393139/k702-in-the-studio
 
The Second option for close monitor hps will be the GMP 8.35 D monitor or the M-50. You can use both out of your mixer/sound card. Here you go: http://www.head-fi.org/t/406658/the-german-maestro-gmp-8-35-d-monitor-in-the-studio-serious-about-audio-indeed
 
Aug 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM Post #4 of 12


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The K-240 MKll are a good choice, flat and open... If you have more budget go for the K702, with Apogee Duet, or the Mini DAC. You'll some need sound card, or hps amp that drive them well. Here more info: http://www.head-fi.org/t/393139/k702-in-the-studio
 
The Second option for close monitor hps will be the GMP 8.35 D monitor or the M-50. You can use both out of your mixer/sound card. Here you go: http://www.head-fi.org/t/406658/the-german-maestro-gmp-8-35-d-monitor-in-the-studio-serious-about-audio-indeed



Thanks for the reply man! By good sound card, would a Creative X-fi qualify as a good soundcard? that's the one I have right now, no cash at the moment to buy a new one...and no money for a hps amp either...so I guess I'm back to the K 240...thanks!
 
Aug 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM Post #5 of 12


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Thanks for the reply man! By good sound card, would a Creative X-fi qualify as a good soundcard? that's the one I have right now, no cash at the moment to buy a new one...and no money for a hps amp either...so I guess I'm back to the K 240...thanks!

 
Just don't forget... you'll need the K-240MKll @ 55 ohm. Some old models of the K240 are @ 600 ohms, and those will be harder for you to drive out of the Creative. 
 
BTW, check out the FS forum.
 
 
 
Aug 22, 2011 at 6:31 PM Post #6 of 12


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Just don't forget... you'll need the K-240MKll @ 55 ohm. Some old models of the K240 are @ 600 ohms, and those will be harder for you to drive out of the Creative. 
 
BTW, check out the FS forum.

 
 
Thanks for the info man, so that 240's @ 55 ohm impedance don't need an amp and I could still use them PROPERLY?
 
Aug 22, 2011 at 7:04 PM Post #7 of 12
If it were me with your budget I would go with a pair of ATH-M50's.  They are one of the best cans at the $150 price point and are used in studio work.
 
Dave Rat did a search for the best "live sound" studio monitor.  He narrowed it down in part 5 of 5.
 
The 280 Pro have serious durability issues. http://www.headphonereviews.org/headphone/Sennheiser/HD280+Pro
 
Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJh8B1QfEn0 
 
Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCz5bWvBZM
 
Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKdFyjQYvP4&playnext=1&list=PLA4FA2C60945804C7 
 
Part IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdYQwunv5a0
 
Part V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkb4bhdnRA 
 
Aug 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM Post #8 of 12


Quote:
Dave Rat did a search for the best "live sound" studio monitor.  He narrowed it down in part 5 of 5.
 
The 280 Pro have serious durability issues. http://www.headphonereviews.org/headphone/Sennheiser/HD280+Pro
 
Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJh8B1QfEn0 
 
Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCz5bWvBZM
 
Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKdFyjQYvP4&playnext=1&list=PLA4FA2C60945804C7 
 
Part IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdYQwunv5a0
 
Part V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkb4bhdnRA 



Thanks for the links man! I notice he hasn't tested AKG headphones...do you have any information on AKG's? and whether they need a headphone amp to function properly? Yeah I took out the 280 out of my options, but what do you think of the 380's? They're closed headphones, so I'm not sure if they're any good for mixing/monitoring? While the AKG's are semi-open, so they isolate yet have a flatter response and are clearer as I understand?
 
Sep 3, 2011 at 12:50 AM Post #11 of 12
Not a studio engineer, but have a fair number of "studio headphones" and would bring any of these if I were going into a studio:
 
AKG K 240 MK II
GermanMAESTRO  GMP 8.35 D
Sony MDR-7509HD
 
Sep 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM Post #12 of 12
Is there a reason the Sony MDR-V6 Studio Monitor isn't on your list? They've been around for 20 years so that's got to tell you something. They're closed phones, comfortable, reasonably flat and will set you back only $70.00.
 

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