Need help choosing a budget headphones for home recording.
Aug 20, 2011 at 6:22 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

sabathiel

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I have a mini home studio recording. I mainly record karaoke covers using karaoke backing tracks and some acoustic guitar covers. I use a Behringer 1202FX mixer, AKG Perception 420 multi-pattern studio condenser mic, Boss Pro CL-50 compressor/limiter/gate connected to a desktop using a Creative Sound blaster xtreme music sound card. At the moment I use a Sennheiser earphones live bass system MX 470 for recording monitor. I have my eyes on the following:
 
AKG K99
AKG K77
AKG K44
AKG K240S
AKG Q460
 
Which one is the best headphone for what I am doing? Or maybe any other suggestion within the same price range. Appreciate any help and advise. Any earphones may also be considered since my recording are for Youtube and I use earphones because they are more practical since I wear hats for my Youtube videos but I was thinking of getting full sized headphones for monitor during the practice takes and then for the proper video take I will use the earphones. Thank you.
 
Aug 29, 2011 at 7:54 PM Post #2 of 10
I dont know about the other headphones , but I have a pair of audio technica ath 40fs headphones. They sound sweet and detailed to me, and are very suitable for home recordings. They are very reasonably priced these days ($56.00 ) and  in a review, a sound engineer asked this guy what professional monitors was he using for his recording and they were these ath 40 fs headphones. The engineer  thought the 40 fs sounded like expensive professional monitor headphones, so they arent too bad....
 
Aug 29, 2011 at 7:55 PM Post #3 of 10
maybe grado sr60s.  they're easy to drive and have very good sound quality for their price.
 
Aug 30, 2011 at 1:17 AM Post #4 of 10


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maybe grado sr60s.  they're easy to drive and have very good sound quality for their price.



If your recording music you would want a closed back pair as open back will leak into the recording. Trust me I will be taking audio engineering this fall.
 
I don't know what the op's price point is but the Shure SRH440 is good value and can be had for under $100.
 
Dec 24, 2011 at 4:42 PM Post #6 of 10
I've always preferred IEMs for recording, but I was also playing drums half the time. Full sized closed headphones just don't isolate enough for my tastes.
 
Dec 24, 2011 at 9:08 PM Post #7 of 10
The DT-770 is nice, but seems way too expensive for him at $150+. The Sony V6 and Sennheiser HD280 pro are standard widely used monitor headphones. The V6(as the 7506 model) is used extensively in radio stations, recording studios, and tv and movie production. The V6 and HD280 pro are around $75-85. My Sony V6 is 23 years old and still works fine, except that I needed to change the earpads. It is great that they are still making the V6 after all these years.
 
Dec 24, 2011 at 9:14 PM Post #8 of 10
The Audio Technica M50 is a popular recording phone. Look into it at least.
 
Dec 24, 2011 at 9:20 PM Post #9 of 10
Alright, let me say this first: the Behringer mixers all have a rather high output impedance from the headphone out jack. If you intend to plug into that, I suggest running it through a cheap, low impedance headphone amp like the Fiio E5/E6 to reduce distortion and alteration of the frequency response. Or just run it through the sound card. 
 
Studio monitors under $100:
$65 Sony MDR-V6 
$70 Shure SRH-440
$80 KRK KNS 6400
 
All are closed back. Any of these should be a good choice. 
 
I suggest against the Grado SR60i (open-back, colored sound with heavy treble emphasis), Beyerdynamic DT770 (very boomy bass, bass heavy closed headphones would make poor monitors), Audio-Technica ATH-M50 (borderline bass heavy headphones, receded mids). 
 
Feb 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM Post #10 of 10
i like the sound of my K44s BETTER than the sound of the $200 sennheiser HD25s i bougt for a reduced price of $94 and ended up returning in favor of the K44s as the 44s have more bass and less brightness. i gave up on the HD25s after beating the crap out of them with 20 hours worth of "hear it across the room" dubstep after which they still never opened up where the 44s had more warmth right out of the box.
 
the 44s are still a little light in the bass department if you're producing bass heavy tracks, but unless you have infrabass, you can at least hear the bass clearly. other than some bass politeness easily remedied with some bass boost and an amp with juice (i'm mostly using them on mp3 players) they have a pretty flat sounding EQ with plenty of detail, particularly in the treble where you hear EVERY grain of sound in white noise & siblants making hihats you never heard before jump out and some stuff with too much treble piercing. the attack on these is INSANE! they don't just sparkle, you get that piercing sound you "feel in your neck" off of clearly recorded metallic percussion. i'd say the sound leans towards ruthlessly revealing and analytical. if you overdo the treble or muck it up, K44s will let you know which is a good thing. i've discovered 1 or 2 tracks that have hi-hats a little hot in the mix that were previously obscured with other cans and have heard many details in tracks i've listened to hundreds of times that i'd never heard before, especially low level crackle on vinyl. they are generally relaxed sounding though and even fun with good source material and don't complain when you drive them hard. i like mine except for the lack of deep bass on dance tracks, especially with puny mp3 players. they DO get a little uncomfortable on long sessions, but nowhere near as bad as head clamping sennheisers can get.
 
i can't remember the sampson SR-850s i had well enough to make distinctions, but at $40, those are a great value too and very similar sounding. a little light on the bass, but plenty detailed & relaxed sounding for critical listening with maybe a little but more warmth in the treble. that could be due to those being semi-open designs. i THINK the 850s might be more comfortable as i literally wore them for days on an inerstate bus trip and don't remember being uncomfortable. BOTH the K44s and SR-850s have low clamping pressure. i think i'd probably go with the SR-850s again given a choice, but those weren't available locally. i also got a really SWEET combo deal of just $50 for the sampsons including a nice, though a little hissy large diaphragm mic that's nice for home studio use, especially with louder sources.
 
there's an even CHEAPER AKG knockoff similar too the sampsons that might even be a rebrand of the same thing with slightly different earcups i think was just $30 (superlux HD668B). if the drivers are the same, that's an huge bargain though the 850s are tight too. the ONLY complaint i can remember about the 850s was not enough bass with everything else being clear, detailed and effortless even at volume. the 850s were great for helping me find low level tics in tracks to smooth out that were obscured by sennheiser 202s.
 
oh yeah... the isolation sucks on HD-850s too being semi open and all, but that's not an issue for studio recording and actually lets sounds breathe better. i bought them because they were the cheapest open phones i could find that weren't consumer junk and they were great for home recording and not so much so for riding the bus.
 
i'd say
 
go with the K44s if you want more bass, isolation and treble ruthlessness and the SR-850s if you want a more open & relaxed acoustic sound and the superluxes if they're otherwise identical.
 
the BEST idea though is to try and visit a music store that will let you open a box and audition their gear or that has gear on open display and bring an HQ source with stuff you're familiar with. there was a $60 pair of phones by an "off brand" at the shop i bought the K44s at that had really nice bass, but funky loud colors i didn't like and that weren't full over the ear designs or unknown name i didn't trust as much. nothing beats putting cans on and hearing them in person though break in differences can be an issue.
 
other than less bass than i'd like, both the AKGs and sampsons are otherwise excellent cans with plenty of detail and neutral EQs. hope that helps
 

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