Yep well usually I do not faff about, it is just due to the fact they are USA only and I am in the UK and also I am getting completely different opinions from different people. This is why usually I just buy the damn headphones and test them, but this is not quite so simple for me because of the location of the mad dogs. One person says they have loads of bass another says they lack impact etc.
I was hoping for some comparisons to other headphones I have used, because peoples opinions do not really mean anything without a point of reference. Also how much they have improved with the new revisions and pads, clearly these are good in the mids and treble or they would not have so many replies in the thread, but the bass....
I found that the 840 were a little bit bass light for me, although it was quite a long time ago I cannot remember too well, I would want more than the 840 if anything.
I am sure this question would be of interest to a lot of other people as well so it is not as if I am wasting time is it, that is the point of the thread after all, to discuss the headphones or find out if they are what you are looking for...