Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee Review & Measurements
Jun 29, 2018 at 6:06 PM Post #901 of 4,845
Just after joining the Drop for the 6XX in May I was hospitalized with a heart attack and was really wondering if I would make it to the end of August to receive them .

I bought the original 580s in the early 90s but when I bought the 600s they really did not do it for me but when I first heard the 650s they were exactly what I wanted so I bought a pair but due to health issues I was forced into retirement and we were raising one of our granddaughter's so I had to sell the 650s then the offering by Massdrop meant finally I would get the ,650s back in the form of HD-6XXs.

Then it seemed with the Heart attack the universe was conspiring to keep me from having the 650s lol

But after hearing the reviews of the 58X Jubilee's being 650 like I ordered them and they are on their way yay lol

But the universe had a final kick my headphone amplifier died today

I know this reply is a couple of pages back already but I feel for you man. I ordered my 58X's on the first day of the first drop (maybe second day?) without considering everything that could happen to me personally in six months. I'm so thankful for that transcendental quality of music that allows us to leave the harsher realities of this mortal life behind for a bit. Music is at that crossroads of science and art where it can't fully be defined by one without the other. I'm grateful for your post since you remind me that life is precious and to forget that in this audio hobby is to miss the point of the hobby. Stay strong, friend, and may you find a good deal on an enjoyable amp soon!

Feel my pain:triportsad::triportsad::triportsad:



Take heart, friend. I had an unrelated Massdrop order that was scheduled for delivery on 6/30 also but I got it yesterday! Here's hoping that you get a similar experience. (I'm also hoping that the 7/12 quoted delivery date of my set of HD 58X's is overly conservative too).
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 6:25 PM Post #902 of 4,845
I know this reply is a couple of pages back already but I feel for you man. I ordered my 58X's on the first day of the first drop (maybe second day?) without considering everything that could happen to me personally in six months. I'm so thankful for that transcendental quality of music that allows us to leave the harsher realities of this mortal life behind for a bit. Music is at that crossroads of science and art where it can't fully be defined by one without the other. I'm grateful for your post since you remind me that life is precious and to forget that in this audio hobby is to miss the point of the hobby. Stay strong, friend, and may you find a good deal on an enjoyable amp soon!



Take heart, friend. I had an unrelated Massdrop order that was scheduled for delivery on 6/30 also but I got it yesterday! Here's hoping that you get a similar experience. (I'm also hoping that the 7/12 quoted delivery date of my set of HD 58X's is overly conservative too).

Thank you music and riding with my wife on my Harley get me through all the tough stuff and having a wife that supports me no matter what is a huge blessing
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 6:31 PM Post #903 of 4,845
I can do that, just need to get a feel for the HD58x's first.

I will say this, the Lyr 3 pairs up with them nicely.

Is the HD660S in your collection? I'd love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the others.

Owning the HD580, HD600, HD650 - and now HD58X - I'd love to get a HD660S to complete my collection, but I'm not sure it's worth the current selling price.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 6:39 PM Post #904 of 4,845
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Is the HD660S in your collection? I'd love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the others.

Owning the HD580, HD600, HD650 - and now HD58X - I'd love to get a HD660S to complete my collection, but I'm not sure it's worth the current selling price.

Probably not worth it moneywise.
I wonder if in the near future, just as the HD580 Jubilee became the HD600, maybe the HD58x Jubilee may become something like the HD610 or HD620. With that kind of sub bass extension tweak and similar response to the HD660S for the rest, it probably deserves to become a full member of the Sennheiser HD6## lineup (outside of the Massdrop agreement).
 
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Jun 29, 2018 at 7:36 PM Post #905 of 4,845
Is the HD660S in your collection? I'd love to hear your thoughts on how it compares to the others.

Owning the HD580, HD600, HD650 - and now HD58X - I'd love to get a HD660S to complete my collection, but I'm not sure it's worth the current selling price.

I'm in the middle of doing comparisons of each right now. I'll get them done in the next day or two, but I can tell you the 660 is the furthest from the 58x.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 7:55 PM Post #906 of 4,845
Well when I saw that pic I thought to myself wow such headphone porn.
But seriously based on what others have been saying and also on the graph, I feel like I will have a hard time justifying keeping the 58x. Too bad I had hoped it’d sound like the 600 but as it’s not so different from the 650/6xx...
Will receive it this Sat, till then won’t make a decision though.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 8:26 PM Post #907 of 4,845
Somebody asked about balanced cables for these - yes. The same balanced cables that work with any of the 6xx series will work. I've had my 58X balanced on my Jotunheim (4490) today. The same minor improvements I get with my 650/6XX. The connection is a little less clicky/snappy but it all fits fine.

I was surprised at how well the 58X did on my tube amp today! I've got a Little Dot mk2 with Russian 6h6p power and GE Jan 5654W driver tubes. I highly recommend throwing these cans on a tube amp if you have a chance. Maybe because 58X start a little more lively, or random luck with synergy of my gear, but I think the 58X are more improved than my 6XX on this setup.

I'd like to hear what others have experienced in this regard.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 8:44 PM Post #908 of 4,845
Well when I saw that pic I thought to myself wow such headphone porn.
But seriously based on what others have been saying and also on the graph, I feel like I will have a hard time justifying keeping the 58x. Too bad I had hoped it’d sound like the 600 but as it’s not so different from the 650/6xx...
Will receive it this Sat, till then won’t make a decision though.

It really isnt too much different from the 600. The mids took a small hit, but Id say its smack dab in the middle of 600 and 650. The bass isnt as (dont roast me) "sloppy" sounding as the 650. It has more sub bass than the 650/6xx. I could justify keeping it along side the HD600/50 easy.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 10:41 PM Post #909 of 4,845
If I recall correctly (and I could be thinking of something else since it has been so long), originally only the first 1500 were supposed to be serialized to encourage people to buy in early. Other than the exclusivity of having an earlier number, there's no importance. A collector may want the earliest model they can get, but I don't see these being that much of a collectors piece.

I joined in on one of the very early drops - if not the first, definitely before the 3000 mark and my headphones are over 4000 serial number. I'd see no reason to care what that little sticker says if you actually plan on using the headphones.
Thank you for the clarification. The collector aspect was what first came to mind for me as well. I just really did not see the big deal.. To put it clear, that person who's response to my question was" the lower the serial number the better they sound" is how people seemed to acting. As if there was some exclusive drivers in earlier serial numbers. lol I hope someone does not read that comment and misunderstand sarcasm. Anyway thanks, mine are currently on the way.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 11:08 PM Post #910 of 4,845
Thank you for the clarification. The collector aspect was what first came to mind for me as well. I just really did not see the big deal.. To put it clear, that person who's response to my question was" the lower the serial number the better they sound" is how people seemed to acting. As if there was some exclusive drivers in earlier serial numbers. lol I hope someone does not read that comment and misunderstand sarcasm. Anyway thanks, mine are currently on the way.

With some/many products, the first so many produced are QC’d more closely until they can verify the consistency and accuracy of product quality before moving to larger production or distribution. This is part of what made me want the lower serial number. The other aspect was the desire for low numbers by collectors which helps when selling. Sometimes early adopters also get screwed and improvements are made later on in production, so the reverse is also true in some cases.

There was a bit of risk involved with this purchase because many people, like myself, passed up HD6XX to try these newer ones out but had to wait and also didn’t have the luxury of glowing reviews. We had to trust that the end product would be improved in the area of bass extension.

In a few cases with Massdrop, I would have been better off waiting instead of adopting early. I got knives with bad pocket clips that were improved on the second run, the K7XX has a plastic piece which breaks easily on the headband that to my knowledge still hasn’t been fixed, and a few others.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 11:13 PM Post #911 of 4,845
From my experiences in product development (one in the auto field and another job in the medical field), your statement is only partially true. In both jobs I had, the first runs to develop good quality products were all scrapped until the products that were being produced was passing no problem, and then production models began to the same inspection processes that had been developed for previously run products.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 11:22 PM Post #912 of 4,845
The lower the serial number, the better your pair sounds.
Honestly, this would be the only acceptable answer....I mean, the ONLY good reason to be mad you didn't get a low number would be if they were somehow better sounding...
this is a mass produced headphone, the more successful it is the less "rare" those numbered ones become....and seriously, what type of fool "collects" a headphone that has numbered editions up front , with ZERO limit on how many will be produced?
I used to be into racing Miatas...it's a really interesting subculture. I happened to wind up owning a car that was remarkably rare...a 1994 Laguna Blue R package Miata (legend has it the engines were hand built...I'll be honest, it felt like that might be true.) I think there were something like 458 made worldwide. It was a truly special car....and worth almost nothing. Because they also happened to sell a million bajillion regular Miatas. So...who exactly are these collectors of the 58X?
I'm sorry, but that was a funny joke. Y'all can't be too serious about the number thing...c'mon.
 
Jun 29, 2018 at 11:24 PM Post #913 of 4,845
Honestly, this would be the only acceptable answer....I mean, the ONLY good reason to be mad you didn't get a low number would be if they were somehow better sounding...
this is a mass produced headphone, the more successful it is the less "rare" those numbered ones become....and seriously, what type of fool "collects" a headphone that has numbered editions up front , with ZERO limit on how many will be produced?
I used to be into racing Miatas...it's a really interesting subculture. I happened to wind up owning a car that was remarkably rare...a 1994 Laguna Blue R package Miata (legend has it the engines were hand built...I'll be honest, it felt like that might be true.) I think there were something like 458 made worldwide. It was a truly special car....and worth almost nothing. Because they also happened to sell a million bajillion regular Miatas. So...who exactly are these collectors of the 58X?
I'm sorry, but that was a funny joke. Y'all can't be too serious about the number thing...c'mon.
Aye, high five on the Miata thing! I currently own two with the intention of turning one into a race car.
 
Jun 30, 2018 at 3:49 AM Post #914 of 4,845
I wonder if I can get adjusted to the sound stage difference (interesting to see/hear hows the difference in practice). Other than that I think it should feel quite similar to my HD 595.
 
Jun 30, 2018 at 7:24 AM Post #915 of 4,845
Threw mine up on the sale board if anyone is interested.

Steve
 

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