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Just got the magni today for a vinyl/headphones only set up. I've got Pro-ject Debut -> Pro-ject Phono Box -> Magni 3 Plus -> HD600's. The sound is great, definitely better than my Cambridge Topaz amp, but it's lacking power for Sennheisers. I have to max out the volume on high gain to get to a good volume. Honestly, it's probably better for my ears that it doesn't get louder, but I'm eyeing something more powerful now. The Valhalla?
Friends of mine had the Pro-ject Phono box. It was awful; no PRaT, dead boring sound. The Mani was a big improvement, and would help with your low level problem.
 
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Now a disclaimer, I don't know what cartridge you are using. But each of Manis settings alters the gain.

I'm using an Ortofon Red.
I have to admit that I don't understand all the numbers. For the Phono-Box, how do calculate the 500 mv output given these specs? Sorry, total newbie here.

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Thanks, that's good advice. I didn't realize the Mani had that much output.
Now a disclaimer, I don't know what cartridge you are using. But each of Manis settings alters the gain.
I'm using an Ortofon Red.
I have to admit that I don't understand all the numbers. For the Phono-Box, how do calculate the 500 mv output given these specs? Sorry, total newbie here.

I pulled it off the pro-ject website, but you likely have more accurate info since you own the device. From what your specs are showing you are only getting 300mv, not 500mv. It's possible I looked at specs for a different model, or you know, I'm dumb 😀.
 
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Phono stage gain is dependent on cartridge output voltage. The spec above shows 300mV with a 3mV cartridge. The Red has a typical output of 5.5mV, so it will provide more than 300mV out. I believe it would be 550mV, but I'm not certain.

Regardless, gain of the Phono Box is 40dB and gain with the Mani set for standard output MM is 42dB. A difference of 2dB is not a game changer.

The Mani has higher gain stage settings but the input would likely overload with an Ortofon Red.
 
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I'm from Europe, I can hardly get my hands on any of the amps that are recommended in this forum. But I found a used 2018 Schiit stack (Modi 2 + Magni 3). Is the Magni 3+ or Heresy significantly better than this or should I buy it? It's only 200 bucks, which is definitely okay. For anything I have to ship to my country I have to pay ridiculously high fees.
 
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In my opinion, consideration of the shipping fees otherwise, yes that's a good deal.
 
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I'm from Europe, I can hardly get my hands on any of the amps that are recommended in this forum. But I found a used 2018 Schiit stack (Modi 2 + Magni 3). Is the Magni 3+ or Heresy significantly better than this or should I buy it? It's only 200 bucks, which is definitely okay. For anything I have to ship to my country I have to pay ridiculously high fees.
The 3+ is brighter (might be good or bad) and a little more detailed. Up to you if you think it's worth it.
 
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The 3+ is brighter (might be good or bad) and a little more detailed. Up to you if you think it's worth it.
Take what RickB says into consideration, but also, keep in mind that in my own experience the Magni 3 is not the bottleneck as I have swapped Modi 2 Uber (same DAC's as regular Modi 2) out from behind the Magni 3 in favor of a Presonus Audiobox USB, and got better sound for my hearing/headphones/musical tastes/what-have-you.
 
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I'm from Europe, I can hardly get my hands on any of the amps that are recommended in this forum. But I found a used 2018 Schiit stack (Modi 2 + Magni 3). Is the Magni 3+ or Heresy significantly better than this or should I buy it? It's only 200 bucks, which is definitely okay. For anything I have to ship to my country I have to pay ridiculously high fees.
I got fed up waiting for stock with the euopean dealer and ordered US instead. Delivered within a week :wink:
 
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I got fed up waiting for stock with the euopean dealer and ordered US instead. Delivered within a week :wink:
How was the experience with customs for you?

I got my Magni 3 from Schiit as well when I was living in Maastricht and ended up paying quite the sum because of taxes-FedEx fees...
I then decided to use Schiit-Europe when I purchased the Mimby, but I hear about the stock situation
 
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How was the experience with customs for you?

I got my Magni 3 from Schiit as well when I was living in Maastricht and ended up paying quite the sum because of taxes-FedEx fees...
I then decided to use Schiit-Europe when I purchased the Mimby, but I hear about the stock situation
No experience so far, so I guess I got lucky? (I rarely get lucky otherwise)
 
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No experience so far, so I guess I got lucky? (I rarely get lucky otherwise)
Looks like it, I got a letter from FedEx shortly-ish after the delivery itself with the bill (VAT, customs, fees...kinda pricey for a Magni, in the end)

Hopefully you'll get away with it, I think with items that aren't too expensive you can get lucky, indeed
 
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