Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:34 PM Post #4,861 of 9,204
I measured it today (no mic) - 0.7, 0.9, 0.7 Ohm, very similar to (may be a touch above) a typical stock TRN/KZ cable. Blon stock cable has fairly rigid ear guides, so it is quite hard for the fit; while its electrical resistance may not be much of a problem for a single-DD BL-03 with the impedance of 32 Ohm.
I measured it today (no mic) - 0.7, 0.9, 0.7 Ohm, very similar to (may be a touch above) a typical stock TRN/KZ cable. Blon stock cable has fairly rigid ear guides, so it is quite hard for the fit; while its electrical resistance may not be much of a problem for a single-DD BL-03 with the impedance of 32 Ohm.

thanks! so it's almost similar impedance to the Linum superBax? which if I'm not mistaken rated at 0.75 ohm.

i have a little project with the BT20S Pro, to make my IEMs convertible between true wireless and wired without removing the connector attached to the IEM, and I'm thinking that thin and light cable would be preferable. I tried the BL03 cable (earguide removed) and it fits great, but i was thinking of buying a Linum..

but if based on your measurement, i guess i won't be needing the Linum after all
 
Sep 9, 2020 at 1:08 AM Post #4,862 of 9,204
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(Left = limpid, right = litzps)

Kbear Limpid VS NiceHCK litzps:

Limpid advantage:

Working chin-slider
L/R marked with blue/red colors (very visible)
stronger earhooks
Better looking divider/connector (for me)

Litzps advantage:
a bit cheaper (22.61 vs 23.65 usd)
softer earhooks


I would take the Limpid over the litzps due to the looks and because they both measures around the same, Limpid = 0.46 ohm vs Litzps = 0.53 ohm, most likely unit variation and are exactly the same cable.



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(left = rhyme, right = C8)

Kbear Rhyme VS Tripowin C8

Rhyme advantage:

higher quality divider/connectors
red marking for right connector
Lower measurement (0.23 ohm vs 0.34
much cheaper (20.69 vs 29.99 usd)

C8 advantage:
besides the looks, none


The Rhyme makes the C8 100% redundant and a worse cable at a much higher price, not much to say about this comparison other than that. They do look really similar (different colors) but the measurements are a bit lower on the Rhyme so most likely not the same cable.
Thanks for this comparison. I bought both these cables on the last Aliexpress sale and I appreciate your views. Nice to hear that the chin slider works better on the Limpid than on the Nicehck. Aside from that, the Nicehck pure silver cable works great soundwise with my TFZ NO.3. With respect to the Rhythm/Rhyme; those are some bold claims you are making vs. the Tripowin cable. I don't own the C8 but I do have a couple of Zonie's that I've been enjoying alot on my KZ ZS10 PRO and ISSO14. Really looking forward to getting these Kbear cables to compare them myself.
 
Sep 9, 2020 at 4:18 AM Post #4,863 of 9,204
Thanks for this comparison. I bought both these cables on the last Aliexpress sale and I appreciate your views. Nice to hear that the chin slider works better on the Limpid than on the Nicehck. Aside from that, the Nicehck pure silver cable works great soundwise with my TFZ NO.3. With respect to the Rhythm/Rhyme; those are some bold claims you are making vs. the Tripowin cable. I don't own the C8 but I do have a couple of Zonie's that I've been enjoying alot on my KZ ZS10 PRO and ISSO14. Really looking forward to getting these Kbear cables to compare them myself.
Well, when the rhyme cable measures better and is cheaper along with better build quality (+ some quality of life changes like the colored L/R markings), I see it as superior to the C8.
 
Sep 9, 2020 at 6:27 PM Post #4,868 of 9,204
Quick question .. trying to get a UPOCC MMCX cable in 4.4mm. If the description does not mention balanced, is it not balanced or are all cables terminated in 4.4mm plug balanced?

All 4.4mm (and 2.5mm) will be balanced.
 
Sep 10, 2020 at 12:39 AM Post #4,869 of 9,204
8 Core Silver Plated Earphone Cable 2pin 0.78mm
$29.99 on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Silver-Plated-Earphone-Replacement-Headphone/dp/B086JVYRQ8/ref=sr_1_36

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Nice cables. Decent length with good thickness and weight/feel. The cable is a bit more resistant to tangles due to its thickness, but it can still get tangled easily due to the earloops. Earloops are made of preformed plastic. There is no wire inside, but the plastic is preformed acutely granting a tighter fit. Some reviewers have commented that they are uncomfortable, but I have worn these cables for hours around my ears and have no discomfort whatsoever. YMMV.

Wire guard at the plug is just a bit of stuff and clear shrunken plastic, which looks tacky. The plug itself is a straight plug. The cable also has an adjustable neck strap/guide.

Overall a nice looking cable.
 
Sep 10, 2020 at 1:22 AM Post #4,870 of 9,204
DC resistance, L, R, GndL, GndR: 941, 920, 912, 940 mΩ
I've always felt puzzled about the damping factor in this case. Do I have to divide BL-03's 32Ω by 0.941Ω+source output impedance, or I have to divide 32Ω by 0.941Ω+0.912Ω+source impedance to get damping factor. seems like I get a factor of about 17 on the latter before accounting for source impedance.
 
Sep 11, 2020 at 7:27 AM Post #4,871 of 9,204
Sorry to bother again. I've looked and looked and looked and still can't find what i'm after.

I'd like a cable in the platted style, like this

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32875979519.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.47.6d86666cSuww4v

At that price point/discount ideally and preferably three colours so it's easy to repair if i needed.

2 pin with a three button mic, also wouldn't mind one with mmcx.

Also can i use 0.75 and 0.78 cables interchangeably? Is that the pin length, width or spacing?
 
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Sep 11, 2020 at 8:05 AM Post #4,872 of 9,204
Sorry to bother again. I've looked and looked and looked and still can't find what i'm after.

I'd like a cable in the platted style, like this

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32875979519.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.47.6d86666cSuww4v

At that price point/discount ideally and preferably three colours so it's easy to repair if i needed.

2 pin with a three button mic, also wouldn't mind one with mmcx.

Also can i use 0.75 and 0.78 cables interchangeably? Is that the pin length, width or spacing?

16 core cable with 3 button mic? I think you're looking for a unicorn, man.. You probably need to order it custom. Can try asking Chitty or Cema Electro Acousti or Lunashops.. These stores all do custom stuff.

Chitty's Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMcPZSP

CEMA Electro acousti Store Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMQrWzt

Lunashops Retail Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqgWQV1
 
Sep 11, 2020 at 10:16 PM Post #4,873 of 9,204
16 core cable with 3 button mic? I think you're looking for a unicorn, man.. You probably need to order it custom. Can try asking Chitty or Cema Electro Acousti or Lunashops.. These stores all do custom stuff.

Chitty's Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMcPZSP

CEMA Electro acousti Store Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMQrWzt

Lunashops Retail Store
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqgWQV1

Thank you, i'll check them out.

Do mics interfere with the signal, is that why they're not found on fancier cables??

Can anyone answer my question re 0.75 and 0.78 cables? Are they interchangeable?
 
Sep 11, 2020 at 11:03 PM Post #4,874 of 9,204
Thank you, i'll check them out.

Do mics interfere with the signal, is that why they're not found on fancier cables??

Can anyone answer my question re 0.75 and 0.78 cables? Are they interchangeable?
Personally, I stay away from cables with a mic or controller in the signal path for signal purity reasons. It doesn't make alot of sense to me to spend money for an upgrade cable that's using higher grade wire and connectors, just to diminish those sonic benefits by slapping a 30 cent controller with a mic in between. As to your question about .75 vs. .78 pins...you CAN use a .78 2 pin cable on a .75 socket (I've been doing it on my ZS10 PRO, until the Paragraph C connector on the iem cracked away at the housing of the left earpiece). You take your chances. My best advice is to find a cable you like and stick with it. None of this would be a problem, if only companies like KZ, CCA and TRN would just adopt the standard 2 pin .78, instead of their proprietary .75 format. It's bad enough that they use that shrouded Paragraph C raised connector on their iems; but when they add a non conforming. 75 pin size to the mix...it's a disaster waiting to happen. I'm guessing that's why so many people have been reporting failures with their iems. They've swapped out the stock cable with other, higher quality ones that came with .78 pins. There are very few high quality cable companies that make upgrade cables (especially with balanced connectors) in .75 format. It's not the standard...0.78 is.
 
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Sep 12, 2020 at 11:07 AM Post #4,875 of 9,204
I have recently bought their cable from taobao during a sale just to check their quality. after the sale, the price got even cheaper. currently waiting for the item to arrive. the price drop already gave me a bad impression of them.
Hey! Did you receive the cables?
 

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