Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

[rspkers]

Hi guys I'm new to cables outside of stock. I preordered the fatfreq Deuces which are supposed to be bass heavy with the treble not being as good. After digging around, am I understanding that silver cables would be the best match with these iems? I've read that silver helps with treble, and copper with bass. Am I wrong? Can anyone perhaps recommend a decent cable that would go well with fatfreq's style of bass heavy iems? I've been looking at a few on aliexpress and wasn't sure what to go for.

These are the 3 I was glancing over at, but I'm not sure which, or whether to go with the usual tripowin zonie reccomendations.

I wanted to buy one "nice" cable with a 4.4mm balanced connector to keep as a dedicated "at home" cable to hook up to my amp, and use the included "upgraded" blood cable from fatfreq for on the go. Any help is appreciated.


Xinhs 8 Strand Pure Silver Cable + Gold-Plated Copper Wire
XINHS G18 8 Core Pure Silver Earphone Upgrade Cable Balanced Wire
XINHS F06 4-core 7N UPOCC single crystal copper+7N single crystal copper silver plating+graphene hybrid upgraded cable

 

[flu_fighter]

Hi guys I'm new to cables outside of stock. I preordered the fatfreq Deuces which are supposed to be bass heavy with the treble not being as good. After digging around, am I understanding that silver cables would be the best match with these iems? I've read that silver helps with treble, and copper with bass. Am I wrong? Can anyone perhaps recommend a decent cable that would go well with fatfreq's style of bass heavy iems? I've been looking at a few on aliexpress and wasn't sure what to go for.

These are the 3 I was glancing over at, but I'm not sure which, or whether to go with the usual tripowin zonie reccomendations.

I wanted to buy one "nice" cable with a 4.4mm balanced connector to keep as a dedicated "at home" cable to hook up to my amp, and use the included "upgraded" blood cable from fatfreq for on the go. Any help is appreciated.


Xinhs 8 Strand Pure Silver Cable + Gold-Plated Copper Wire
XINHS G18 8 Core Pure Silver Earphone Upgrade Cable Balanced Wire
XINHS F06 4-core 7N UPOCC single crystal copper+7N single crystal copper silver plating+graphene hybrid upgraded cable

I'd suggest that you wait until you receive the iem, let it run in for a while and then see where you go from there after listening to it.

 

[Saraugie]

XINHS G18 8 Core Pure Silver Earphone Upgrade Cable Balanced Wire

Thank you for the find. I ordered for the Deuce and Conductor as I'm betting it would synergize with one or both.

 

[rspkers]

I'd suggest that you wait until you receive the iem, let it run in for a while and then see where you go from there after listening to it.

I understand, but wouldn't I need the cables anyway to A/B test? What does listening to the iem do if the stock cable isn't very good? How does that tell me whether a copper, gold, or silver cable would be better? We do already know the squiggle graphs from crinacle and others for the Deuces. It's a FF iem with big bass.

I'm new to the cable material shenanigans and this is why I'm asking. I'm not really sure if it's all snake oil or not which is why I wanted recommendations from those intimately familiar with FF's bass heavy line. I don't really have a bunch of cables like some people here do, so I wouldn't be able to test them when I get the iem.

Thank you for the find. I ordered for the Deuce and Conductor as I'm betting it whould synergize with one or both.

That was my guess from my research as well. Was very much debating between that one or the one with both silver and gold plated copper mixed in.

 

[flu_fighter]

I understand, but wouldn't I need the cables anyway to A/B test? What does listening to the iem do if the stock cable isn't very good? How does that tell me whether a copper, gold, or silver cable would be better? We do already know the squiggle graphs from crinacle and others for the Deuces. It's a FF iem with big bass.

I'm new to the cable material shenanigans and this is why I'm asking. I'm not really sure if it's all snake oil or not which is why I wanted recommendations from those intimately familiar with FF's bass heavy line. I don't really have a bunch of cables like some people here do, so I wouldn't be able to test them when I get the iem.

I guess you could try some of the cables in the list if you are eager to try different cables since you are new to this.

What I mean to say is have a listen to how is it at stock cable first, from there based on what you hear, then decide what you want from a third party cable, like more highs, more lows, meatier sound.

 

[droenald]

I agree with @flu_fighter's opinion.
Best to listen to the earphones with the original cable first. If you have other stock cables from another set of in-ears you can try to switch the cables and see if you can hear a difference between different cables at all.
Chances are, you'll love the inears with the original cable!
If not, then you ask for recommendations and tell us what you want to improve upon.
Well not me, I am somewhat cable agnostic...
I recently bought 3 Nicehck cables, one pure copper, one pure silver and one silver plated copper.
While I did hear a difference, I can not be sure, if it was only confirmation bias! If the haptics of the cables where the same, and it would be a blind a/b test I am not sure I could know which cable was which.
So I think it would be best to give yourself some time with the inears and original cable. Probably a week or 2, just to also do some brain burn in and "learn" listening to the sound signature of the iems Then you will exactly know what you'd want ro change in the sound.
It might be, that you find
A) You like the sound, but want to finetune --> cable swap
B) You want to change the Sound some more --> EQ?
C) Nah, that's not for you --> buy other inears

 

[Shadowclash10]

anyone have any favorite thin/light cables?

 

[Uprox]

anyone have any favorite thin/light cables?

I don't like thin cables, except ISN SC4.

 

[dpeterfy32]

anyone have any favorite thin/light cables?

Linum bax

 

[Carpet]

anyone have any favorite thin/light cables?

Ivipq do a nice 4 core gel cable that's wound rather than braided. Usually on sale for about $12.

 

[Shadowclash10]

Ivipq do a nice 4 core gel cable that's wound rather than braided. Usually on sale for about $12.

do you by any chance remember the model name? they make a bunch of cables, and I can't seem to find that specific one.

 

[568812]

I've ordered one of these after reading about it here somewhere. Seems good value and is known good quality cabling. Nothing fancy to look at though

 

[568812]

Looks good, no BS cable. Happy with it and warmly recommended. 4.4 balanced silver plated ‘ultra pure’ OFC VanDamme quad microphone cable. UK assembled and 30 quid for 2 meters. Soft jacket with little memory, non microphonic. No fancy cloth cover! Good enough for Pro's, good enough for me.

Unlike some ‘special’ audiophile stuff you will know what you get;

Spec sheet

 

[Maxx134]

Hi, cross posting from another cable thread. Just want to show how inaccurate and meaningless it is to measure cable resistance, especially with a multimeter (I bought this to check if I can identify an expensive plug from a cheap plug judging by the resistance):


this is a Micro Ohm Meter, not a multimeter, using 4-wire Kelvin method, so the internal resistance of the meter itself can be ignored

And the same cable measured with a multimeter. Just please stop measuring cables.


Above is a Cardas Clear Light with a nickle free silver plated copper core plug.


A relatively cheap XINHS cable above.

I agree .
Not only is this useless, but even the best ohmmeter in the world will only be testing resistance from a constant current (it's battery), which is equivalent to zero hertz.
So the "audible" band of 20-20khz, is not only, NOT tested for resistance, but also N0T tested for both inductance and capacitance in that range of frequencies, which will alter/affect the "synergy" of both the "source" and "transducer" (as it's in the middle of both) .
So this is why we will hear differences, in different amounts, according to our gear. Not only of the wire traits, but what the wire does to the other two components in the chain.
This is the "stumbling block" of those who follow in the "sound science" threads.

 

[saldsald]

I agree .
Not only is this useless, but even the best ohmmeter in the world will only be testing resistance from a constant current (it's battery), which is equivalent to zero hertz.
So the "audible" band of 20-20khz, is not only, NOT tested for resistance, but also N0T tested for both inductance and capacitance in that range of frequencies, which will alter/affect the "synergy" of both the "source" and "transducer" (as it's in the middle of both) .
So this is why we will hear differences, in different amounts, according to our gear. Not only of the wire traits, but what the wire does to the other two components in the chain.
This is the "stumbling block" of those who follow in the "sound science" threads.

I agree but I think resistance, inductance and capacitance are not the only factors affecting the sound. From my "sound science" experiments, e.g. trying out different plugs using the same wires, there must be some sort of excitations by different elements/compounds that give sound different characters. Also, the geometry of the inner wires likely also makes a difference and I believe it is analogous to sound waves travelling in a tube, such like some wind instruments. But this part should be really hard to explain and verify.