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Oct 14, 2021 at 6:18 PM Post #7,186 of 7,287

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All good points and do agree it’s a ho

Totally agree in my case I feel it’s better to maybe save towards a better iem. I love the moondrop variations with edm, trance, pop etc. if that’s all I listened too they be my endgame. Since I also enjoy classic rock I feel there a little something that is missing with the variations.

Don’t get me wrong the variations work well with rock they just don’t blow me away like they do with edm. Variations have really expanded my music taste due there the working so well with certain music and that’s a good thing. Still I need to determine if what I’m missing in classic rock is related to the iem or the recording of mostly music from the 60’s and 70’s. Chris you went from variations to the mest would love to hear your thoughts on that.

Anyways back to cables I’m finding the solid silver cable with my hearing doesn’t sound as good as the mixed material cables. Going listen a bit longer then switch to solid copper before going back to the mixed cable. The quality of the silver cable from XINHS still was a great value for the price only few bucks more than his standard silver with more cores seems a steal.

I’m at the point in my journey that I’m still trying find what my endgame will be. If a decent quality silver cable doesn’t sound good when and if I ever decide to try a higher price cable I at least have and ideal what material or mix of I enjoy most will be.
What Variations is "missing" in order to play those music genres really well is the mid and upper bass and lower mids. I'm not knocking them. I love Variations but I recognize that they don't excel at every genre because of the way they are tuned. They also don't hide the warts of poor recordings.
 
Oct 14, 2021 at 8:17 PM Post #7,187 of 7,287

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Totally agree a lot of good points in your response, in my case I feel it’s better to maybe save towards a better iem. I love the moondrop variations with edm, trance, pop etc. if that’s all I listened too they be my endgame. Since I also enjoy classic rock I feel there a little something that is missing with the variations.

Don’t get me wrong the variations work well with rock they just don’t blow me away like they do with edm. Variations have really expanded my music taste due there the working so well with certain music and that’s a good thing. Still I need to determine if what I’m missing in classic rock is related to the iem or the recording of mostly music from the 60’s and 70’s. Chris you went from variations to the mest would love to hear your thoughts on that.

Anyways back to cables I’m finding the solid silver cable with my hearing doesn’t sound as good as the mixed material cables. Going listen a bit longer then switch to solid copper before going back to the mixed cable. The quality of the silver cable from XINHS still was a great value for the price only few bucks more than his standard silver with more cores seems a steal.

I’m at the point in my journey I’m still trying find what my endgame will be. If a decent quality silver cable doesn’t sound good when and if I ever decide to try a higher price cable I at least have and ideal what material or mix of I enjoy most will be.
I also prefer mixed material cables that I think that they give extra dimensions. Try this with the Variations (I have been recommending this one all the time):

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001843346773.html?spm=a2g0n.detail.0.0.3d034683idg1go&gps-id=storeRecommendH5&scm=1007.18500.187585.0&scm_id=1007.18500.187585.0&scm-url=1007.18500.187585.0&pvid=89807119-bb58-44c1-a210-24a2574e8057&_t=gps-id:storeRecommendH5,scm-url:1007.18500.187585.0,pvid:89807119-bb58-44c1-a210-24a2574e8057,tpp_buckets:668#2846#8111#1996&pdp_ext_f={"sceneId":"8500","sku_id":"12000017821564149"}&browser_id=aec2fb602f37432ea84bf4ead13598f0&aff_trace_key=4255086de9ae4ad0838b5829b508f060-1633447072166-02714-_ePNSNV&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=rowgbmbwuicadrzd17c8148cbf52445826349e04f8&gclid=

I bought two expensive non-listed pure silver cables from XINHS and I still find the cable above much much better.
What Variations is "missing" in order to play those music genres really well is the mid and upper bass and lower mids. I'm not knocking them. I love Variations but I recognize that they don't excel at every genre because of the way they are tuned. They also don't hide the warts of poor recordings.
Exactly what I have been complaining about the Variations. I think for example, French (bass) horn sounds like fart with the Variations due to something lacking or maybe too much in those regions, just not very well tuned. Otherwise I love my Variations.
 
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I also prefer mixed material cables that I think that they give extra dimensions. Try this with the Variations (I have been recommending this one all the time):

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005001843346773.html?spm=a2g0n.detail.0.0.3d034683idg1go&gps-id=storeRecommendH5&scm=1007.18500.187585.0&scm_id=1007.18500.187585.0&scm-url=1007.18500.187585.0&pvid=89807119-bb58-44c1-a210-24a2574e8057&_t=gps-id:storeRecommendH5,scm-url:1007.18500.187585.0,pvid:89807119-bb58-44c1-a210-24a2574e8057,tpp_buckets:668#2846#8111#1996&pdp_ext_f={"sceneId":"8500","sku_id":"12000017821564149"}&browser_id=aec2fb602f37432ea84bf4ead13598f0&aff_trace_key=4255086de9ae4ad0838b5829b508f060-1633447072166-02714-_ePNSNV&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=rowgbmbwuicadrzd17c8148cbf52445826349e04f8&gclid=

I bought two expensive non-listed pure silver cables from XINHS and I still find the cable above much much better.

Exactly what I have been complaning about the Variations. I think for example, French (bass) horn sounds like fart with the Variations due to something lacking or maybe too much in those regions, just not very well tuned. Otherwise I love my Variations.

Yes I bought that cable shortly after you mentioned it on the moondrop thread (thank you). It my current favorite with variations and woulda saved me a few dollars if I stopped there. Oh well live and learn, at least XINHS cable are not super expensive. Plus it’s a hobby and it was fun to try out other cables.

The one you listed is my favorite closely followed by this cable.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002994387021.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.d05e4c4dCBszWP

The cable below description is really good for a laugh. The boil cable for 10 hours was a really bad Translation :)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...store_pc_home.smartJustForYou_6000885543582.1
 
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Oct 14, 2021 at 9:23 PM Post #7,189 of 7,287

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Yes I bought that cable shortly after you mentioned it on the moondrop thread (thank you). It my current favorite with variations and woulda saved me a few dollars if I stopped there. Oh well live and learn, at least XINHS cable are not super expensive. Plus it’s a hobby and the it was fun to try out other cables.

The one you listed is my favorite closely followed by this cable.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002994387021.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.d05e4c4dCBszWP
Haha, that's good and I bought 25 more after that one but it is always a hit or miss.
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Best way to store cables btw!

I personally recommend trying out all those gold containing cables but not too much gold like 8 core gold plated copper. There is something special about having gold in the cable.

Haha, I can see there is a lot of wrong information here and there.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 3:20 PM Post #7,191 of 7,287

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Ok sorry just couldn’t resist posting this cable. With frequency response like this who wouldn’t want on of these in there collection. Honestly don’t even know how they can measure there cables so it is more of laugh than anything else.
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Here is a link to it.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002363241144.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.777d3c009EWg8X&mp=1
If a cable attenuates non-uniformly in the frequency spectrum even more than a dB - it is gibberish. Why would anyone want crazy random attenuation like shown in that gimmicky graph??

The laugh (or sad compassion) can be caused by people wasting their money on such cables, as well as graphene, 1% gold, alloys, etc... instead of getting a good source or a few good sources for diversity and enjoyment.

I know it is a hobby and all that, but there are parts of this hobby to which the phrase "snake oil" fits like a glove!
But please do ignore my comment if you know or hear better :)
 
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Hello everyone. Which cable would you suggest for Astell&Kern Diana? The stock cable is too heavy. I'd also like to enhance the Treble a bit to get that open feeling I get with Meze 99 Silver Cable for Meze 99C. Any recommendation?

I'm thinking "BQEYZ C10" might be a good option. I also like the concept of swappable connections of "Fiio LC-RC" so If I get that cable and use MMCX to 0.78mm adapter, would I loose sound quality?
 
Oct 18, 2021 at 12:54 PM Post #7,195 of 7,287

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I've never tried them myself but those mmcx to 2-pin adapters add length to the connection at the iem end which a lot of folks don't seem to like. There would be a small amount of additional resistance added by using the connectors but it probably wouldn't affect the sound quality. It's too bad that Fiio doesn't offer (or have readily available) a 2 pin version of that cable. $99 isn't bad for a decent cable with a very good modular plug system.
 
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I've never tried them myself but those mmcx to 2-pin adapters add length to the connection at the iem end which a lot of folks don't seem to like. There would be a small amount of additional resistance added by using the connectors but it probably wouldn't affect the sound quality. It's too bad that Fiio doesn't offer (or have readily available) a 2 pin version of that cable. $99 isn't bad for a decent cable with a very good modular plug system.
I can get an "L-Shaped" converter and see if it's comfortable to use and even if it's not, I'll just use the Fiio cable with Campfire Honeydew. My main concern is sound, both Diana & Honeydew are very warm/bassy IEM's with recessed treble. I need a cable that can slightly improve the treble region. From what I read online, the Fiio LC-RC cable tames the FH5s sibilant treble so I'm worried how it will pair the warm IEM's.
 
Oct 21, 2021 at 11:41 PM Post #7,198 of 7,287

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Hello, just a quick question, I'm looking for something thin and light in a mmcx 2.5 or 4m4 balanced cable without ear bends. Someone in another thread mentioned linum but they're like 300 dollars.

I'm looking for something cheaper. I've got a beautiful light cable that came with rose mini 3 pro but it's not balanced. I prefer it in weight and thinness to my effect audio virtuoso.

Just wondering if anyone has suggestions. Most cables on Ali look on the thicker side to me. I did see an AOL audio that looked pretty thin and light but it's hard to tell.
 
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Hello, just a quick question, I'm looking for something thin and light in a mmcx 2.5 or 4m4 balanced cable without ear bends. Someone in another thread mentioned linum but they're like 300 dollars.

I'm looking for something cheaper. I've got a beautiful light cable that came with rose mini 3 pro but it's not balanced. I prefer it in weight and thinness to my effect audio virtuoso.

Just wondering if anyone has suggestions. Most cables on Ali look on the thicker side to me. I did see an AOL audio that looked pretty thin and light but it's hard to tell.

Campfire Audio - Litz Cable or Smoky Litz Cables​

 
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Campfire Audio - Litz Cable or Smoky Litz Cables​


Thanks for the suggestion but I don't want anything with memory wire or a plastic sleeve on the ear bends. So AOL audio is out for me. Plus I actually ruined my effect audios by trying to remove that plastic memory sleeve bend- I accidentally danaged the wire when trying to cut the sleeve away.
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