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Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!

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  1. Dsnuts Contributor
    These cables seems to effect the bass to mids more so than the treble end which tilts your phone to sound warmer than they are. I should have gotten the SPC OCC version of these instead. lol. These.

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    These cables have so much material it woundnt surprise me if they can use some actual burn in to get them sounding proper. The sound was a bit too warm for my liking out of the package but they are starting to clean up in the sound the more I am using them. AS they are these will work really well for BA based iems that need a bit of smoothing around the edges. I think these are worth the money but I can't say these are a slam dunk good deal since I got many that was actually great deals before getting these.

    But since I don't own any 16 core pure copper cables in my collection these cables will add to the cable box nicely. I am definitely noticing a cleaner sound the more and more I am using them so a bit of cable burn in seems to be taking place here. I have them connected to one of my Chi fi 12BA eaprhones as I am typing.

    These have no ear guides by the way so they form around your ears perfectly. Wish more cable companies just skipped on the ear guides. I will be letting music play through the cables for the evening. Will see how they turn out by tomorrow.
     
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  2. hakuzen
    do you have any chance of rough measuring dc resistance of these penon cables? any multimeter would be enough
     
  3. Dsnuts Contributor
    Don't have a multimeter. I am just basing everything on how they mesh with my in ears. But I do have a friend who does. Will post some results if I get a chance. They seem to be the real deal. But the actual weight of the cables itself is more so than the earphones they are attached to only real draw back. They look amazing though I have to admit. For a DIYer they can make 2 cables with one of these and it would still be relatively thick.
     
  4. hakuzen
    thanks for trying! can you measure their weight? if they'd weight more than 35-40g, i'd start worrying
     
  5. hakuzen
    if each core is 19*0.10mm or 19*0.08mm, its resistance per signal will be similar or even better than the 7n occ 4 cores cable (55-60mΩ, weights 36g), while being more flexible. about quality of copper, we can't know if this "single crystal copper" has similar quality than "7n occ copper" (probably yes). superb value in any of these cases.
    if each core is 19*0.05mm, its resistance per signal will be around 165mΩ, and the price is more normal (although still very good).
     
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  6. superuser1
    :D who thinks of these colours???

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  7. bigglesworthinc
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  8. hakuzen
    yuk! love them! refreshing...

    i'm sure the quality of the material is superb ("custom manufactured UPOCC enamel-coated litz wire"), but they don't provide detailed info of total conductor section per signal ("The L/R section is thin at 1.4mm per channel": 1.4mm refers to section of the wire, sleeve included! and it's not clear if it's the width per signal or per side -2 signals-). i think that sellers should provide that info of their boutique cables. so don't expect decent resistance. you can ask for that info to them, and then i can calculate approximate resistance.
    isn audio cables at penon look very nice at their price. but i'd wait to know their weight and to confirm approximated conductivity
     
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  9. bigglesworthinc
    @hakuzen I can find a wire size of 26 AWG - have emailed plus sound and will see
     
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  10. zeppu08
    Is this yours?? Can you link me to them? Im looking for a nice pink cable for my wife.
     
  11. Broquen
    My wife does not bother about audio cables but she loves pink things. I'm tempted to use it to provoke her into this world... xD
     
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  12. zeppu08
    Hahahah you should coz it might work!
     
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  13. Dsnuts Contributor
    So I have been listening to my BA earphones using the new 16 core copper cable. Sound is much improved this morning after playing music through the cable. I know cable burn in is debatable but there is so much material on these cables that it kinda makes sense. Anyways the sound has cleaned up considerably from open box listen. I was a bit bumbed actually from open box listening thinking that was the sound but I should have known these cables need a bit of a break in.

    The sound characteristics of crystal copper or pure copper of these 16 cores brings a fullness and added height and depth to your mids and bass. Treble is tamed a bit which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your sound preferences. The sheer amount of material seems to influence the sound of the iem it is attached to. Guys that are not believers in cables should try something like these cables with 16 cores. It will change the stock tuning for certain. Vocal and bass lovers will dig what these cables do. Treble lovers should stay away. Your better off with the SPC OCC or the silver coated variety of these cables.

    The best aspects of both SPC and the crystal copper is the hybrid version which in theory should give the best of both worlds scenario to your iems. I noticed due to the added depth and height of music neutral sources pair really well with this cable. Overall I think if you own V shaped iems or earphones that have too much treble emphasis for your liking should try these cables. Overall they are a solid deal for the cash. [​IMG]

    https://penonaudio.com/isn-c16.html
     
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  14. zeppu08
    How does this penon cable compare to the nicehck crystal copper? Which do you think is better?

    https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bXy0Tjzm
     
  15. Dsnuts Contributor
    Not all cables show their value in how much they cost but in this case I would put that cable above the Penon cable. But it will also depend on what iem your using it for as well. Guys that are using the BGVP DM6 for example would most definitely benefit from the Penon crystal copper cable. NiceHCK crystal copper is of a higher quality for certain.
     
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