[daijoubu86]

What do you guys think, Faaeal Hibiscus 4 core vs the Nicehck C16-3 vs Cable 909 for TRN V90?
Is it worth the slight extra for the Nicehck C16-3? I'd like for the TRN V90 to have more forward mids than what it has now, while toning down on the sibilance/highs.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000400771561.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000129870705.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000097502378.html

Or are there better options in the USD15-20 range?

Or does it make sens to go directly to 196?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000009633191.html
That would however be more expensive than the IEM itself

 

[JEHL]

What do you guys think, Faaeal Hibiscus 4 core vs the Nicehck C16-3 vs Cable 909 for TRN V90?
Is it worth the slight extra for the Nicehck C16-3? I'd like for the TRN V90 to have more forward mids than what it has now, while toning down on the sibilance/highs.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000400771561.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000129870705.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000097502378.html

Or are there better options in the USD15-20 range?

Or does it make sens to go directly to 196?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000009633191.html
That would however be more expensive than the IEM itself

If I read the impedance graph from audioreviews correctly, impedance seems to start at 23Ω at 20Hz, then a sharp drop starts from 100Hz to 1kHz where it ends at 11Ω and stays mostly there for the rest of the range and then a slow climb from 11Ω to 14Ω from 10kHz to 20kHz. Pretty sure that's one sample.

The only thing I understand from this data? The higher your output impedance, the bassier it is overall. Lower mids may come more forward as well but only compared to treble and upper mids.

What are your audio sources, may be helpful to know the output impedance of that.

Speaking of which I learned from Amir from ASR that the HP Zbook 14 mobile workstation has an output impedance of 17Ω, for all I know my HP Pavilion g4 laptop could have that output impedance or at least a higher output impedance than the V90's lowest load impedance... Yikes.

 

[daijoubu86]

If I read the impedance graph from audioreviews correctly, impedance seems to start at 23Ω at 20Hz, then a sharp drop starts from 100Hz to 1kHz where it ends at 11Ω and stays mostly there for the rest of the range and then a slow climb from 11Ω to 14Ω from 10kHz to 20kHz. Pretty sure that's one sample.

The only thing I understand from this data? The higher your output impedance, the bassier it is overall. Lower mids may come more forward as well but only compared to treble and upper mids.

What are your audio sources, may be helpful to know the output impedance of that.

Speaking of which I learned from Amir from ASR that the HP Zbook 14 mobile workstation has an output impedance of 17Ω, for all I know my HP Pavilion g4 laptop could have that output impedance or at least a higher output impedance than the V90's lowest load impedance... Yikes.

Thanks for your feedback =D. I plan to use the V90 on the newly launched Qudelix. There are not figures released, but the designed said that it should be similar to the Fiio BTR5, which is <2Ω on balanced output.

What would you recommend based on this source?

 

[JEHL]

Well normally the general recommendation is that if you don't want to change the sound signature of the load your output impedance is no greater than 1/8 of the lowest load impedance. In the case of the V90 this would mean an output impedance of 1.375Ω max. To which I say get this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32916162030.html

But assuming the impedance graph is correct, you actually want to... Increase the output impedance in order to lower the treble! So now we're getting into subjective territory since I don't know by how much you want to decrease the treble.

And of course there's the issue that I don't own a V90 myself which I should have pointed out from the very beginning, so this is as far as I can go. In fact I only own the BLON BL-03 which if you refer to my post at the beginning of this page, its issue is completely different from the issues most multi driver IEM face when it comes to cables.

Is this relative to V90 stock cable? If so we're probably looking at making the V90 brighter with the cable I linked. That being said however, to my understanding, cables tend to make minute changes at most to the sound signature of your IEM.

 

[daijoubu86]

Well normally the general recommendation is that if you don't want to change the sound signature of the load your output impedance is no greater than 1/8 of the lowest load impedance. In the case of the V90 this would mean an output impedance of 1.375Ω max. To which I say get this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32916162030.html

But assuming the impedance graph is correct, you actually want to... Increase the output impedance in order to lower the treble! So now we're getting into subjective territory since I don't know by how much you want to decrease the treble.

And of course there's the issue that I don't own a V90 myself which I should have pointed out from the very beginning, so this is as far as I can go. In fact I only own the BLON BL-03 which if you refer to my post at the beginning of this page, its issue is completely different from the issues most multi driver IEM face when it comes to cables.

Is this relative to V90 stock cable? If so we're probably looking at making the V90 brighter with the cable I linked. That being said however, to my understanding, cables tend to make minute changes at most to the sound signature of your IEM.

Wow this is getting a little out of my breadth of understanding. Let me see if I'm getting it right.

Based on the FR here: https://www.audioreviews.org/trn-v90-review-durwood/

The blue line which is the impedance, drops around 100 Hz onwards. How does one just increase the impedance of the higher freqs? And since it was measured using stock cables, how do I know how much the stock cables affect this measurement?

From the review it says that the V90 is similar in tonality as the Blon BL03, but with more distinct V shape. I'm guessing anything that will take the edge off the highs is good enough, whilst maintaining or slightly boosting the bass is OK too.

Of course I can just EQ it using the Qudelix software...

 

[flyingmushroom313]

Has anyone tried this KBEAR 8 core cable?
I'm trying to decide between a Faael Hibiscus cable or that one for my Blon 03
https://www.amazon.com/KBEAR-Silver-Plated-Copper-Earphone/dp/B07S9YJLB7

 

[KarmaPhala]

Hi guys, anyone have experience with xiaofan store cables, are they good for the price ???

 

[zedbg]

I got 2 i like them

 

[JEHL]

Wow this is getting a little out of my breadth of understanding. Let me see if I'm getting it right.

Based on the FR here: https://www.audioreviews.org/trn-v90-review-durwood/

The blue line which is the impedance, drops around 100 Hz onwards. How does one just increase the impedance of the higher freqs? And since it was measured using stock cables, how do I know how much the stock cables affect this measurement?

From the review it says that the V90 is similar in tonality as the Blon BL03, but with more distinct V shape. I'm guessing anything that will take the edge off the highs is good enough, whilst maintaining or slightly boosting the bass is OK too.

Of course I can just EQ it using the Qudelix software...

I didn't find exactly how it's measured but I'd assume load impedance is measured at the IEM plugs rather than at the cable?

If I'm not mistaken because of its impedance it could react weirdly to EQing, although as long as you only touch 1kHz and over you should be safe I believe. I heard the Hibiscus cables are great so maybe just get one of those or the $11 cable I just linked and try EQing afterwards if they end up too bright... again I don't actually have the cable. You can hardly go wrong with NiceHCK anything I believe as well.

Has anyone tried this KBEAR 8 core cable?
I'm trying to decide between a Faael Hibiscus cable or that one for my Blon 03
https://www.amazon.com/KBEAR-Silver-Plated-Copper-Earphone/dp/B07S9YJLB7

BL-03 Isn't picky about cable, as long as it doesn't cover the air intake.

Hi guys, anyone have experience with xiaofan store cables, are they good for the price ???

I think we could ask him.

The pair in the photo are TA tips but I found the Lg. Auvio's to be a little tighter seal. As for the cable you can get it here off AliEx: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32978880203.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dVNanTe

Of course if you really want to have people gawk at you (you know little kids scream cause they see a snake on your back) this one is like a garden hose for just (think Clint Eastwood flick here) a few dollars more you can go for this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32970249542.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dVNanTe which for it's girth is surprisingly light

Actually no heavier than these 8 Core Xiaofan cables: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000165943464.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4decnxva

Left and right look like Xiaofan cables to me.

 

[Podster]

I didn't find exactly how it's measured but I'd assume load impedance is measured at the IEM plugs rather than at the cable?

If I'm not mistaken because of its impedance it could react weirdly to EQing, although as long as you only touch 1kHz and over you should be safe I believe. I heard the Hibiscus cables are great so maybe just get one of those or the $11 cable I just linked and try EQing afterwards if they end up too bright... again I don't actually have the cable. You can hardly go wrong with NiceHCK anything I believe as well.

BL-03 Isn't picky about cable, as long as it doesn't cover the air intake.

I think we could ask him.

Left and right look like Xiaofan cables to me.

How on earth did you figure that out

 

[daijoubu86]

Has anyone compared the difference between FAAEAL Hibiscus litz cable vs the NiceHCK cable 090?
I know one is highly viewed by @hakuzen for it's price, and the other is semi hyped here. I think it's worth the price difference is the 090 is more pliable and less memory cable than the Hibiscus, assuming their cable and sound quality is similar.

 

[Lebowsky]

I'm looking for a basic, decent and not incredibly expensive MMCX cable to be worn straight down (not over the ear) with my Sony XBA-N3AP.
The stock cable has too much pull from the volume control (which I don't use) and microphonics, and using the clip is not always possible depending on the situation.

I'm looking for something black, lightweight, and without memory wire. So far I found an MEE audio cable that seems interesting (link), but am interested to see your suggestions as well.

thanks!

 

[rprodrigues]

Hi there.

Is ISN S8 cable a good one to improve treble?

 

[Dsnuts]

I'm looking for a basic, decent and not incredibly expensive MMCX cable to be worn straight down (not over the ear) with my Sony XBA-N3AP.
The stock cable has too much pull from the volume control (which I don't use) and microphonics, and using the clip is not always possible depending on the situation.

I'm looking for something black, lightweight, and without memory wire. So far I found an MEE audio cable that seems interesting (link), but am interested to see your suggestions as well.

thanks!

for the money I would try one of these instead. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32973046302.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.36.13a27019l0CWsW
Mee stuff is about as simple and plain and the stuff you recieve on their earphones.

Hi there.

Is ISN S8 cable a good one to improve treble?

ISN S4 is better but S8 is good if that is how much you want to spend on a cable. It should enhance a bit of treble end for you.

 

[SenorChang8]

Hi, I’m looking for a replacement cable for my Sennheiser HD25, couldn’t seem to find it on Hakuzen’s list, any thoughts on the cable below or better alternatives up to £30ish?

LN005329 7N OCC Headphone Cable