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Lotoo PAW Gold Touch - Touchscreen, 4.4mm Bal, USB DAC, Bluetooth

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by EagleWings, Mar 28, 2018.
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  1. jmills8
    Why not try your expensive Meze headphone ?
  2. musicday
    The others are lighter.
  3. tekkster
    Thanks. Appreciate the head’s up.
  4. dhc0329
    How would you compare lpgt with r2r2000 if you had a chance to play both devices?
  5. ppnuts
    I am using a Samsung 512GB card and facing the same problem. After the card has been half-filled up, folders copied start to have empty content, i.e. files cannot be seen on the LPGT. But these folders remain intact when viewed and played on the PC and other daps such as Sony WM 1Z. Unlike the situation reported by others here, my lost files do not reappear automatically on the LPGT later. This is really frustrating. If Lotoo cannot have this problem resolved, I think I'll return the LPGT, despite it being a top notch sound quality winner. What a pity!
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  6. noplsestar
    Oh boy, this really is a BIG problem. After reading your (and the other messages) I wouldn't buy the LPGT because I also use such big cards that are full of music-files.
  7. musicday
    I haven't heard the r2r2000 for a long time, so this is based only on a short impression
    I think the LPGT has a better instrument separation, the music is more relaxed and not into your face and musical not dry. And if I remember well the LPGT is capable of extracting more and reproduce better well recorded music.
  8. musicday
    Can you try to install older firmware version and see if the problem still exist? This is a small issues for me and I hope they will fix in the next update.
  9. Audiophonicalistic
    Do you think it's a brand issue? I know your cards work on everything else but ive experienced before two brands one works one doesn't. I have a sandisk extreme 95mb 256gb card and it scanned in less than a few minutes
  10. soundblast75
    No, i have the Extreme and its too many cards, all good, don't think its that.
    One day in, nothing's changed, too bad..
  11. soundblast75
    So, i am trying to get manually to a different firmware, but i dont see an option in the menu to upgrade, i have the coe file on the card but theres no way to upgrade..

    Nothing is happening with loading new files, i am now sure the dap just doesnt scan for new files, every time you put a card it has remembered whatever happened the first time and it doesnt see anything new, i tried deleting album thats 'empty', it is definitely transfered, but LPGT would not see/scan it anymore.
    I am totally, massively pissed off now, we are not talking about some 50 quid cheap stuff, this is going back!
  12. jmills8
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  13. twister6 Contributor
    I was kind of suspecting this is a case because the issue related to SD card narrows down to files visible in folder view but not when they are indexed for sorting under album/artists AND it has to do with higher capacity cards where you obviously store more files. I have seen this being reported with other DAPs, where it got resolved.

    Just heard from MusicTeck, who got this info from Lotoo directly, this is just a file limit issue (max files they can index is limited to 8k-15k, depending on length of file) which Lotoo is working to address in the next fw update. So, hopefully will see this fix soon.
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  14. jmills8
    Its great you are do close to MusicTeck that you can quickly inform HF.
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  15. twister6 Contributor
    Unfortunately, I don't see an English speaking Lotoo rep on Head-fi, and often local retailers/distributors become the "voice" of the company to bring out the message :D

    As a reviewer, it's a lot easier and faster for me to contract retailers who can speak native language with manufacturer. Also, as it was mentioned, this particular issue wasn't brought up in the review. So, I also feel responsible, the same way how flash card capacity limit came up in Plenue L thread. I don't have high capacity flash cards and don't have enough songs to fill them up. File indexing limit has been a re-occurring issue early on in cayin, shanling, hiby, and other threads, and it all got tackled. In folder view you can see all the files. In artist/album view the sw/fw has to scan and index all those files and sort according to ID3 tag. Obviously, if there is a limit to max files you can index, that's a problem you gonna see with songs "disappearing". With flash card capacity going up and more files being stored, now we gonna see more of these issues surfacing up. But the interesting phenomenon here, people in Asia don't report this as often as people in US/Canada/UK do. So, maybe it has to do with cultural differences of music listening habits? :) Either way, hopefully this issue will get resolved soon.
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2019
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