@stuck limo. As ChrisSC pointed out a few posts ago in this thread, the TOTL Geek Wave (whatever it used to be called) was supposed to be a no-compromise DAP that was on par with or exceeded TOTL DAPs by other vendors 5+ yrs ago. I don't understand why Light Harmonic's plans to develop/produce a premiere market (as you said) DAP have been put on hold. Seems to me that Light Harmonic could produce their high end DAP and make it available to all those who perked for all the features of the TOTL Wave. If indeed the Light Harmonic DAP is/will be as high end as you purport, then I would think that at least some of those who backed the absolute TOTL Wave would accept this offer, especially since it's pretty clear they are getting nothing else in the foreseeable future. For all those that backed something less than all the available perks for the Wave, Light Harmonic could offer substantial discounts on their new DAP or refunds for what each individual paid in for the Wave. After Larry reconciled with Wave backers, Light Harmonic could move on with sales of their premiere DAP and Larry could move on with his business dreams... Has Light Harmonic considered this as a possible solution to resolve Larry's problems?