[ljnew]

Any chance you heard the G6 Quad DAC version and can compare V30 sq with G6

Nope. Not really interested in G6.

 

[chillaxing]

Ok I listened to the v30 again of course it sounds awesome BUT

Allow me to criticize the v30 just a tad bit:

1. V30 is nearly the same quality as the v20, not a huge upgrade or an entire years worth of upgrade capacity. I feel like a year is long enough to make the audio quality substantially better.

2. The digital filters are nice, but that's just a baby version of viper4android imo.

EDIT:

BTW you can get v20 now for $278.99 vs $800+ heck you can buy 3 v20 for price of 1 v30 http://amzn.to/2xdADA3

what you said is true, purely for audio the v20 is a better buy. But if your looking for a complete phone that has all the bells and whistles, then the v30 can not be beat. I believe they now have a true TOTL phone to compete with the big 3. I just wish they would put some money into advertising it. I want them to sell a crap ton of these things so they can keep on producing this line of phones.

 

[ljnew]

what you said is true, purely for audio the v20 is a better buy. But if your looking for a complete phone that has all the bells and whistles, then the v30 can not be beat. I believe they now have a true TOTL phone to compete with the big 3. I just wish they would put some money into advertising it. I want them to sell a **** ton of these things so they can keep on producing this line of phones.

True a better totl phone no doubt BUT

As someone posted before, remember when HTC was the goto phone for audio? Now people go to LG. Consequently, HTC has been taking a beating because they lost their core audience while focusing on other bells and whistles. Afraid the same may happen to LG if they don't focus on their core audience.

Lets not forget we lost the removable battery and second screen also.

 

[musicday]

I think the LG V30 is a great phone with all the features it has to offer. First of all i have not seen it yet, so i cannot comment about the sound quality. At the moment i am still using LG G Flex D955 since it came out and the music quality is better then other phones i heard. Yes you are limited to only 32 GB internal memory but i have all the other feature under the sun: IR remote control, NFC, Bluetooth, FM radio,great battery to name few.
I am impressed as everything i read about the V30 is positive, everyone praising it. And i love to knock on wake up feature of the screen.
I will definitely be buying V30+ once release in UK unclocked/ IF/.
LG V30 will be upgraded to Oreo 8.0. at the end of the year, but i do not know how long LG will support it.
On my LG Flex i am still on 4.4 , so i am hoping they offer better and longer support this time.

 

[chillaxing]

True a better totl phone no doubt BUT

As someone posted before, remember when HTC was the goto phone for audio? Now people go to LG. Consequently, HTC has been taking a beating because they lost their core audience while focusing on other bells and whistles. Afraid the same may happen to LG if they don't focus on their core audience.

Lets not forget we lost the removable battery and second screen also.

Well if they go that route then we'll just jump ship to the next manufacturer that will produce a audiophile phone. Onkyo where you at!

 

[psikey]

1. That's indeed good for battery life.
2. Still a pain or easy to forget imo. But I'm old.
3. All of mine have removable storage. Never bought any DAP that didn't have (except iPods/Zune)
4. True but that means a serious cellular data plan. And I'd be skeptical on streaming quality/dropouts.

I look forward to testing all this out when I get the V30.

I'm still hovering over ordering a V30 purely from cost and based on feedback would likely sell my Dragonfly Red, but I'd still likely keep the Sony ZX300 for it's balanced output and 30hr battery life.

 

[bluelavender]

Well if they go that route then we'll just jump ship to the next manufacturer that will produce a audiophile phone. Onkyo where you at!

Onkyo already has cmx1 audiophile phone, and an excellent one too in audio department

 

[C_Lindbergh]

Onkyo already has cmx1 audiophile phone, and an excellent one too in audio department

But as a phone/non audio consumption it looks totally awful, how much better can the audio be compared to a V20 which has an excellent price point atm?

 

[csglinux]

True but root isn't my critique.

Oh yes it was. Go back and look at your post. Item 2 (50% of your critique) was your inability to run V4A - which requires root.

The other 50% of your critique was that the V30 doesn't sound substantially better than the V20. (Can't comment on that, as I've never heard the V20 - I didn't like its form factor or its 2nd screen.) I'd love the V30 to sound better than my Hugo 2, but one has to have realistic expectations. I'm sure one day such a phone will exist. From my brief listening so far, I would rank the V30 as follows for SQ/listening enjoyment:

Hugo 2 > QP1R > X7ii > X7 > LG V30 >= X1ii > Shanling M1

The X1ii is an awesome-sounding DAP, so this is still fantastic for a phone. I understand it might not be good enough for everybody and I'm sure LG will survive if you pass on this one. Personally, I think you'd be missing out on the best Android phone currently on the market. Actually, I think you'd be missing out on the best phone currently on the market.

But if you have to have root and/or substantially better sound quality, the simple solution would seem to be for you not to buy the V30?

 

[csglinux]

But as a phone/non audio consumption it looks totally awful, how much better can the audio be compared to a V20 which has an excellent price point atm?

As much as I hate Apple, I have to give credit where it's due. They did a marvelous engineering job on that stupid dongle. They were able to put a very respectable DAC and amp into a teeny tiny $9 adapter, no bigger than the size of a lightning plug. It just shows what a large phone manufacturing company can do when producing and selling in large numbers. Irrespective of SQ, most modern smartphones have a form factor, UI and software QC that is years ahead of that from any current DAP manufacturer. I love the idea that Onkyo took a shot at this, but I can only imagine what other kinds of wonderful-sounding phones might exist if only companies like Apple and Google actually gave a crap about audio, instead of trying to just trap existing customers even more securely into their respective walled gardens. I hope they try, but I think it's going to be close.to impossible for any DAP manufacturer to catch up with the likes of LG.

 

[psikey]

Have choice in UK of the silver or blue but not had chance to see one in the flesh. What colour you preferring? I'm tempted to the silver.

 

[bluelavender]

But as a phone/non audio consumption it looks totally awful, how much better can the audio be compared to a V20 which has an excellent price point atm?

True. Cmx1 phone features are midrange. It focus more on its audio. Therefore v30 is another excellent alternative for those of us who wants good audio but still need good phone features.

 

[jusbe]

Have choice in UK of the silver or blue but not had chance to see one in the flesh. What colour you preferring? I'm tempted to the silver.

I ordered the silver for a classic, understated look. Will look for a simple, slimline leather pouch as a case. I was thinking of holding out to see if a V30+ version would come the the UK, but figured since there were no other differences between models, I may just as well simply buy an SD card. Now looking at a pair of Audio Technica IEMs to partner (possibly the ATH-LS200iS).

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Definitely having an issue with volume. My Pinnacle P1 I can listen to at full 75 on the volume slider and it's not too high.

 

[bluelavender]

As much as I hate Apple, I have to give credit where it's due. They did a marvelous engineering job on that stupid dongle. They were able to put a very respectable DAC and amp into a teeny tiny $9 adapter, no bigger than the size of a lightning plug. It just shows what a large phone manufacturing company can do when producing and selling in large numbers. Irrespective of SQ, most modern smartphones have a form factor, UI and software QC that is years ahead of that from any current DAP manufacturer. I love the idea that Onkyo took a shot at this, but I can only imagine what other kinds of wonderful-sounding phones might exist if only companies like Apple and Google actually gave a crap about audio, instead of trying to just trap existing customers even more securely into their respective walled gardens. I hope they try, but I think it's going to be close.to impossible for any DAP manufacturer to catch up with the likes of LG.

LG have had wealth of experience from V10 to come up with what they have now with V30. And yes, I agree with you. I wish all DAP makers dare to venture out. In future, convenience factor will rule, when everyone's life is more hectic than ever. Walled garden like specialised dap is going to fade if more phone makers come up with something more like v30.

This will be like market for digital camera,where for specialised camera maker to survive, you gotta be at very top or has something special to beat phone camera that's catching up fast